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	<title>Comments on: How video didn&#8217;t kill the audio star</title>
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		<title>By: Mike Macias</title>
		<link>http://conversations.nokia.com/2008/06/10/how-video-didnt-kill-the-audio-star/comment-page-1/#comment-920</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike Macias</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jun 2008 21:57:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>you guys didn&#039;t give it a kickstart. you just put it there. you gotta market it, show it off. now iphone is about to steal even more thunder.

this is a stupid implementation, but people are gonna eat this up and love it.

http://gizmodo.com/5015395/apple-introduces-iphone-3g-videoconferencing-kit-zomg
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>you guys didn&#8217;t give it a kickstart. you just put it there. you gotta market it, show it off. now iphone is about to steal even more thunder.</p>
<p>this is a stupid implementation, but people are gonna eat this up and love it.</p>
<p><a href="http://gizmodo.com/5015395/apple-introduces-iphone-3g-videoconferencing-kit-zomg" rel="nofollow">http://gizmodo.com/5015395/apple-introduces-iphone-3g-videoconferencing-kit-zomg</a></p>
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		<title>By: Ricky Cadden</title>
		<link>http://conversations.nokia.com/2008/06/10/how-video-didnt-kill-the-audio-star/comment-page-1/#comment-921</link>
		<dc:creator>Ricky Cadden</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jun 2008 19:40:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would actually have to disagree with both of you. I think video calling hasn&#039;t taken off because it&#039;s incredibly painful to use:

1. You have to buy an extra package from your provider. It&#039;s billed as minutes, which are inherently compared to regular voice minutes, in which case, video calling comes off as *really* expensive.

2. Both parties have to have a capable phone - from the provider. The carriers didn&#039;t think that perhaps I&#039;d want to video call someone and *not* care about seeing them. This would actually solve the issue that James pointed out above, with the preening. Why shouldn&#039;t I be able to take a video call and see the other person, without them seeing me? And then have the option of initiating video from my end, should I choose?

3. It&#039;s currently only phone-to-phone, for no apparent reason. Why shouldn&#039;t I be able to make a video call from my phone to  my mom&#039;s computer, or to my wife&#039;s N800 Internet Tablet? Why does it need to be phone-to-phone? What if I want to video call someone who doesn&#039;t have a data package on their phone? Why disable the possibility?

Imagine something like Gizmo Project on S60 supporting video VOIP/SIP calls over WiFi/3G. I can already make a video call from my N810 to a PC, and either side can choose whether or not to see/send video. My N95 has 3G and WiFi, as well as a front-facing video cam. Why shouldn&#039;t I be able to just use that and call it a day?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would actually have to disagree with both of you. I think video calling hasn&#8217;t taken off because it&#8217;s incredibly painful to use:</p>
<p>1. You have to buy an extra package from your provider. It&#8217;s billed as minutes, which are inherently compared to regular voice minutes, in which case, video calling comes off as *really* expensive.</p>
<p>2. Both parties have to have a capable phone &#8211; from the provider. The carriers didn&#8217;t think that perhaps I&#8217;d want to video call someone and *not* care about seeing them. This would actually solve the issue that James pointed out above, with the preening. Why shouldn&#8217;t I be able to take a video call and see the other person, without them seeing me? And then have the option of initiating video from my end, should I choose?</p>
<p>3. It&#8217;s currently only phone-to-phone, for no apparent reason. Why shouldn&#8217;t I be able to make a video call from my phone to  my mom&#8217;s computer, or to my wife&#8217;s N800 Internet Tablet? Why does it need to be phone-to-phone? What if I want to video call someone who doesn&#8217;t have a data package on their phone? Why disable the possibility?</p>
<p>Imagine something like Gizmo Project on S60 supporting video VOIP/SIP calls over WiFi/3G. I can already make a video call from my N810 to a PC, and either side can choose whether or not to see/send video. My N95 has 3G and WiFi, as well as a front-facing video cam. Why shouldn&#8217;t I be able to just use that and call it a day?</p>
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		<title>By: Monadi</title>
		<link>http://conversations.nokia.com/2008/06/10/how-video-didnt-kill-the-audio-star/comment-page-1/#comment-922</link>
		<dc:creator>Monadi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jun 2008 02:15:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think there is one more thing to it: Usually making a video call requires the two parties to be on speakerphone so they can hold the front camera in front of their face. Some people including me aren&#039;t too comfortable speaking louder than usual and having the speakerphone at full blast in public.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think there is one more thing to it: Usually making a video call requires the two parties to be on speakerphone so they can hold the front camera in front of their face. Some people including me aren&#8217;t too comfortable speaking louder than usual and having the speakerphone at full blast in public.</p>
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