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	<title>Comments on: Seeing things for what they are</title>
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		<title>By: G</title>
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		<dc:creator>G</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Sep 2008 18:19:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The 2nd Sauna Talk video is up! Check it out. http://insider.n-gage.com/saunatalk/
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The 2nd Sauna Talk video is up! Check it out. <a href="http://insider.n-gage.com/saunatalk/" rel="nofollow">http://insider.n-gage.com/saunatalk/</a></p>
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		<title>By: JJames</title>
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		<dc:creator>JJames</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Aug 2008 22:04:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I wondered what would happen to the interest in leaks if companies leaked &#039;fake&#039; products. Y&#039;know, to throw off the scent, or make real leaks seem doubtful. That would be quite funny. Uh, I think.&quot;

What would happen? People would get excited about a fake phone, that&#039;s what. What would that accomplish? Nothing.

In a country like the US where &quot;Nokias&quot; are the phones you get for free when you open a new contract and don&#039;t care what handset they give you, it seems odd that you would focus so much negative attention on one of the only sources of exposure S60 phones have.

When I&#039;m back home and people (who care) see my E71, do you know what they say? It&#039;s inevitably one of two things:

&quot;What the hell is that?&quot;

or

&quot;Hey I saw that on Engadget.&quot; / &quot;Hey I saw that on Boy Genius Report.&quot;

Whether or not Charlie has an axe to grind, Nokia should be buying these guys dinner (if they don&#039;t already) rather than getting upset and whining. If you&#039;re going to sell in a market without any advertising or marketing support, gadget blogs are all you&#039;ve got. Plopping an %24800 phone on a dusty counter behind a BlackBerry sign at Best Buy isn&#039;t going to get you very far.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I wondered what would happen to the interest in leaks if companies leaked &#8216;fake&#8217; products. Y&#8217;know, to throw off the scent, or make real leaks seem doubtful. That would be quite funny. Uh, I think.&#8221;</p>
<p>What would happen? People would get excited about a fake phone, that&#8217;s what. What would that accomplish? Nothing.</p>
<p>In a country like the US where &#8220;Nokias&#8221; are the phones you get for free when you open a new contract and don&#8217;t care what handset they give you, it seems odd that you would focus so much negative attention on one of the only sources of exposure S60 phones have.</p>
<p>When I&#8217;m back home and people (who care) see my E71, do you know what they say? It&#8217;s inevitably one of two things:</p>
<p>&#8220;What the hell is that?&#8221;</p>
<p>or</p>
<p>&#8220;Hey I saw that on Engadget.&#8221; / &#8220;Hey I saw that on Boy Genius Report.&#8221;</p>
<p>Whether or not Charlie has an axe to grind, Nokia should be buying these guys dinner (if they don&#8217;t already) rather than getting upset and whining. If you&#8217;re going to sell in a market without any advertising or marketing support, gadget blogs are all you&#8217;ve got. Plopping an %24800 phone on a dusty counter behind a BlackBerry sign at Best Buy isn&#8217;t going to get you very far.</p>
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		<title>By: Adonis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Adonis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Aug 2008 21:12:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If there is one thing the Chinese are good at (one could argue better than the actual companies themselves) is the ability to get something ridiculously accurately faked in a very short space of time. Looking at those N79 pictures one could assume that&#039;s what it would probably look like when it&#039;s announced.

Perhaps some of the big companies that struggle to get handsets out should look at how they get these fake models into the market so quickly and maybe even use their resources to make their own products (I&#039;m thinking iPhone shortages here) to market quicker.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If there is one thing the Chinese are good at (one could argue better than the actual companies themselves) is the ability to get something ridiculously accurately faked in a very short space of time. Looking at those N79 pictures one could assume that&#8217;s what it would probably look like when it&#8217;s announced.</p>
<p>Perhaps some of the big companies that struggle to get handsets out should look at how they get these fake models into the market so quickly and maybe even use their resources to make their own products (I&#8217;m thinking iPhone shortages here) to market quicker.</p>
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