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How do you hold your Nokia?
By JBC on 28 June 2010
LONDON, England – We’ve been looking around and noticed there are many ways to hold your Nokia device. Whether you’re left-handed or right-handed, there’s no shortage of ways to hold your phone. We’ve highlighted a few after the jump, but let us know your favourite in the comments.
Thumb and finger
Elegant in appearance, this method requires you to grip the phone by its edges, with the thumb on one vertical edge and one to four fingers on the opposite edge.
For larger devices, you might like to place the index finger towards the centre of the top of the device for extra stability.
The cup
Popular with smaller devices, and typically comfortable for longer phone calls, the cup basically enables you to cup the phone with your whole hand. This might result in much of the phone’s edges being covered and the back of the device sitting snugly in the palm of your hand – but don’t be concerned about this, it won’t impact the device’s performance. QWERTY device users will also find this handy for tapping out messages and navigating the phone, as the thumb is typically left free with much of the device’s weight being carried by the palm.
The balance
This is a tricky one to pull off, but like the cup is actually quite useful for QWERTY users. Use your little finger as a ledge for the bottom edge of the phone to rest on, with the index and middle fingers performing a double act to keep the device stable at the back, typically near the bottom of the device, creating the balance effect. We wouldn’t recommend this as being practical for phone calls, but it does work great for messaging and device navigation.
The four edge grip
Regardless of the size of your hands, the Four Edge Grip (FEG, for short) is a universal grip which involves all of your fingers and thumb, each having hold of one edge of the device (the middle and ring fingers actually double up to provide an opposing force to the much stronger thumb). You’ll find a little gap develops between the back of the phone and the palm, which is useful. For something.
We’ve found any of the four grips mentioned above to be both comfortable and as you can see, offer no signal degradation whatsoever. This isn’t a feature you’ll only find on high-end Nokia devices either. It’s something that’s been a part of pretty much every Nokia device ever made (perhaps with the exception of that teardrop 3G one, which was a bit ridiculous).
The key function on any Nokia device is its ability to make phone calls. After all, that’s why we know them universally as mobile phones (or smart phones, feature phones or mobile computers – though the same grip styles work for those, too). One of the main things we’ve found about the 1 billion plus Nokia devices that are in use today is that when making a phone call, people generally tend to hold their phone like a…. well, like a phone. Providing a wide range of methods and grips for people to hold their phones, without interfering with the antennae, has been an essential feature of every device Nokia has built.
Of course, feel free to ignore all of the above because realistically, you’re free to hold your Nokia device any way you like. And you won’t suffer any signal loss. Cool, huh?
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June 28th, 2010 at 1:27 pm
I see I use the Cup method. But I have the freedom to hold how I wish and with either hand and er still be able to make/receive a call.
Lucky iPhone 4 users get to have the option to improve their signal 100% with accessories such as http://yfrog.com/cb5kvj.
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Jay Montano Reply:
June 28th, 2010 at 1:33 pm
yay for full stop destroying URL.
Meant to say:
Lucky iPhone 4 users get to have the option to improve their signal 100% with accessories such as http://yfrog.com/cb5kvj
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code Reply:
June 28th, 2010 at 5:07 pm
but how about that? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=amPG52DVQuk
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Intosh Reply:
June 28th, 2010 at 9:17 pm
As the author of the video said, he deliberately covered the entire bottom of the phone, where the antenna is. Nothing to do with holding the phone naturally and lose signal.
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abcxyz Reply:
June 28th, 2010 at 11:07 pm
Nokia said “any way you like”. What if I like to cover the bottom?
"Apple Fanboi" Reply:
June 28th, 2010 at 11:12 pm
Oh, you mean when he says, “holding it in my hand as normal”? Yeah, that’s right. Nothing to do with holding the phone naturally. But you’re not biased.
Martin M. S. Reply:
June 29th, 2010 at 1:13 am
No, he wrote that cupping it in his hand as he NORMALLY would will do it. He has to specifically avoid touching the antenna.
Val Reply:
June 29th, 2010 at 2:57 pm
@Intosh When did he say that? What he said is that he is holding it as normal and was experiencing network losses because of that. Articles such as above won’t help selling more phones, instead Nokia they should concentrate on making better products if they want to catch up with Apple.
Ant Reply:
June 29th, 2010 at 12:48 am
Indeed, if Nokia are going to take cheap jabs at Apple, maybe ensure you really can hold your own devices any way without this “issue”.
Given practically all antennas at at the bottom of cellphones these days (because SAR rating cares about the head and ignores the hand) the hand is guaranteed to influence the signal in some way. It’s more a matter of how the baseband deals with it and also whether this is hidden from the user (basically lying about the bars shown). Apple made the effort to change the way the iPhone negotiates connections to GSM networks (not sure if universally or just with AT&T) and this was likely not quite ironed out as the iPhone 4 went into production. Apple deserve some criticism for not having the bugs ironed out in time but that’s about it.
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Tapsula Reply:
June 29th, 2010 at 9:55 am
WEll, I do have Nokia E51 and my friend do have the E71 but we haven’t noticed that kind of signal losses in normal use. Have to make tests to check if we can kill the signal
Ace Reply:
June 30th, 2010 at 8:25 am
I’ve never had any signal problems with Nokia despite my country’s young and poor mobile network infrastructure so this video make me thing it is a problem with that particular phone… or (even more likely) he placed the phone near a magnet or something
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Mick Reply:
June 30th, 2010 at 1:17 pm
Let’s face it, the video poster was connected to AT&T.
AT&T US = Mega Fail.
TL Reply:
June 28th, 2010 at 10:44 pm
Hey, Nokia-lovers. Get a wiff of this: http://daringfireball.net/linked/2010/06/28/nokia
*FACE*
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SB Reply:
June 29th, 2010 at 5:46 pm
dumba$$… it say’s it wl hv to operate at a higher power level reducing battery.. bt it wont kill the signal… iPhone sux n iPhone users r suckrs…
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root Reply:
July 6th, 2010 at 9:26 pm
Son, before you start to talk trash about people, please make sure that you do not give anyone else ammo to use when talking trash about you.
You illiterate piece of vermin feces.
I have an iPhone4, I hold it using the balance, and thumb-and-fingers methods displayed above.
The same way I held my Nokias, and Motorolas before I had iPhones.
I do not have issues with signal fade, or loss.
I have only dropped ONE call, and I was already in a dead zone.
It is not the fault of the hardware, not only the hardware anyway.
The main source of stimuli that could not be tested in the labs is human stupidity.
Of which there is plenty of in this string of comments.
Maurits Reply:
June 30th, 2010 at 3:58 pm
Yes, because of course if one Nokia E71 phone user using a _3G MICROCELL_ has the same issues, then it means the problem must occur with every E71 in existence, in every configuration. Whereas with the iPhone4 it isn’t an isolated incident, but happens with nearly every handset.
Wake up and realize that Apple isn’t perfect. It doesn’t make your toy any less shiny if you admit that simple fact. :p
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Alex Reply:
July 1st, 2010 at 9:06 am
Almost every phone maker in the world specifies in the manual that user should avoid touching the antennae part. Many current phones have antennae on the back side at bottom(or at top in some) but the Apple has innovated a way putting it in the area where user usually grabs the phone which results in signal drop! Face the truth you fanboy. Not only Nokia I haven’t heard this signal drop issue even for cheapest phones of other brands and even in Chinese phones! I use 5230 which has no signal reception problem even when I fully cover the bottom. Apple sucks and overhyped. Wait for a year and see Apple’s ass kicked by Android & Meego based devices! Fuck Apple!!
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Anonymous Reply:
June 29th, 2010 at 12:13 am
WHy would you pay extra because of a hardware defect by Apple itself. Think about it, it’s realy common sense!!!!
Btw the iPhone 4 sucks!!!
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Nokia's Fan Reply:
June 29th, 2010 at 4:01 pm
Just like how Nokia tried to cover up the signal issue on their phone.
http://mobiletechreview.blogspot.com/2008/08/update-on-e71-reception-issue.html
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CJ Reply:
July 3rd, 2010 at 7:24 am
Well yea, but Apple didn’t make a hilarious website about it.
And the E71, as per the article you so kindly posted, would result in mild signal loss, only pertinent to area’s of low signal. Which is all of Aus, but off topic.
The iPhone 4 however, is a complete breakthrough in signal loss, you won’t just lose _some_ signal. You’ll lose it all.
Hence the hilarity of it all.
Australian Reply:
July 2nd, 2010 at 7:25 am
I love my Nokia 6700 classic almost 5 signal bars ALL THE TIME… No matter how you hold it !!!
Lets face it… I purchase a phone to talk on…
NOT to use as an expensive worthless paper weight!
Go , Go , Go Nokia Go Go.
Love you NOKIA!
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Droid Reply:
July 3rd, 2010 at 5:08 pm
Val : Nokia ”catch up” with apple ??? 1st. quarter sales this year : apple , 15.4 % Nokia : 44.3 % . Where’s the catching up?
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June 28th, 2010 at 1:35 pm
what a retarded way to take advantage of iPhone issue.
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cycnus Reply:
June 28th, 2010 at 1:48 pm
Who said that iPhone4 has an issue?
It is a secret feature that will boost signal.
User need to hold the phone with the left hand
and hold a parabolic antenna on the other hand (frying pan would also work).
And bite a 9 volt battery at their mounth.
This setup called a human booster project.
It could use a signal from 80km away.
Good for finding the AT&T signal.
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iProtestant Reply:
June 28th, 2010 at 7:11 pm
oh hey, i know something an iPhone can do that a Nokia PoS can’t:
download a software update to fix the problem.
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m1l4d Reply:
June 28th, 2010 at 7:57 pm
How you’re gonna solve hardware issue with software?
tasuret Reply:
June 28th, 2010 at 8:06 pm
The antennae issue is hardware. n00b.
bryant Reply:
June 28th, 2010 at 8:10 pm
its not a software problem its a hardware problem
idomagic Reply:
June 28th, 2010 at 8:33 pm
But why would you need to download a software update if there is no problem?
And just FYI, firmware/software updates wasn’t invented by and isn’t exclusive to Apple, no matter what they claim.
Intosh Reply:
June 28th, 2010 at 9:20 pm
You mean an update that will show full signal bars regardless of actual signal strength? Brilliant! Lucky iSheeps.
Andre Richards Reply:
June 28th, 2010 at 10:37 pm
To those of you claiming the iPhone 4 reception thing is a hardware issue, you’re only partly correct. Apple techs have stated in Apple’s support forums that the issue largely comes from tweaks to the OS that make the system overly sensitive to reduced signal strength and makes it wrongly assume the signal is gone. Holding the iPhone that way doesn’t kill the signal, just reduces it. The OS interprets that as a lost signal and inadvertently kills the connection.
A software update is coming shortly and it will address the problem, allowing the OS to maintain the signal even in the so-called “grip of death.”
iProtestant Reply:
June 29th, 2010 at 1:45 am
you know, i’ve never trolled before but i have to admit, it’s kinda fun.
to respond to you experts, a firmware update CAN address hardware issues. regardless, i still get an update unlike my old nokia phone i had for 4 years that never could get an update, nor do text messaging, mms, or surf the “web” as it was advertised. neither did my super expensive sony erricson.
@tasuret: better n00b than b00b.
@idomagic: never said anything of the kind. apple’s not infallible but their products DO WHAT THEY ADVERTISE. things get updated, things get BETTER.
my iphone 4 is going straight into a case just like my 3G iphone. so the ’signal issues’ won’t be an issue.
alls i know is my phone will have a resale value in three years, how ’bout your nokia POS71? how much will that be worth in 3 years time?
@intosh: baaaaahhh!
Baaaaaaaaaaaa Reply:
June 29th, 2010 at 7:04 am
You stupid iPOS, how much resale value are you expecting for your 3 years old original iPhone 4Gb that was released in June 2007? As like most iEvangelists, you’re just a stupid mindless sheep who doesn’t have a brain that thinks before shooting off your mouth to defend your Apple POS.
Go search “iphone timeline” for the facts and then go ask how much can you get for your 3 year old iCrap.
iProtestant Reply:
June 30th, 2010 at 1:53 am
wow, what a nest of hornets.
you guys continue the pissing match, i’ll be over here making video calls…right after i’m done editing a movie…of my game of Dragon’s Lair…on my iCrap.
lol u mad Reply:
June 30th, 2010 at 7:58 am
Yep, you can totally go ahead and download a software update to fix a hardware problem. That’s why Steve Jobs is taking over for God. He can do pretty much anything. You got a problem? No need to pray, there’s an app for that. Gosh, if only Bill Gates had those kind of powers, then you could just download an update to fix your 360’s RRoD…
Mick Reply:
June 30th, 2010 at 1:30 pm
I know something that a Nokia can do out of the box that an over-hyped, overpriced Chad Valley i(diot)Phone4 can’t do.
Get a signal.
For anyone who does have the signal issue with the iPhoney4 go to your nearest Walmart or Poundland (depending where you live), and invest $1 or £1 in a pair of Marigold Latex Gloves and only wear the left one to make/receive calls. You’ll look like a complete iTW@T, but…….. Heeeyyyyy you got an iPhone. How cool is that?
)
Josh Reply:
June 30th, 2010 at 4:09 pm
That’s funny, download a software update to fix a hardware issue?
+1 Android
cycnus Reply:
June 28th, 2010 at 10:49 pm
LMAO cycnus!!
I am a iPhone user but using a 3gs. You cracked me up but I dont know which cracks me up more: what you said or these people that are so damn loyal to the iPhone. Hell mine is cool but I would be pissed if I had the new one with probs I wouldn’t be a whiny little you know what “Nokia PoS” whine whine whine what a b*tch!
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obi Reply:
June 29th, 2010 at 4:16 pm
To all with the “its a hardware issue, which cannot be fixed with software” bias.
The so-called GSM radio, that sits at the core of your mobile phone and has the basic functionality that makes your phone tick, is the important part.
The GSM radio is a sophisticated software program, which has a vast of parameters and controls that can change the behavior of the GSM radio. (its software, stupid).
Part of these controls and parameters span the physical antenna that is attached. They can even create ‘virtual antennas’. Why? Well a friend of mine works for a specialized software company that creates and writes these so-called GSM radios. Their customers are in the realm of Nokia, Siemens and even perhaps Apple.
It is even possible to emulate a physical antenna and with sophisticated electronics and programming you can change (to a limited degree) and control ‘physical’ properties of the attached antenna with the help of software.
Anon Reply:
July 2nd, 2010 at 4:27 pm
One thing I learned today… Never rub salt in the wounds of a faulty iPhone user. And don’t get into debate with a man and his nokia. Regardless of the rant people it’s just a darn phone…quit bitchin and get out more! Btw I hold my phone with my fingers and type with my thumb…what a sad sad convo this is.
Bruno Reply:
June 28th, 2010 at 1:51 pm
Only retards use the useless iPhone
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Bano Reply:
June 28th, 2010 at 2:34 pm
The iPhone is the best phone on the market and will continue to be so for many years to come.
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Bruno Reply:
June 28th, 2010 at 2:47 pm
The 5800 XM PWNS the iPhone big time
20legend Reply:
June 28th, 2010 at 9:39 pm
Bano,
Megalolz!
You keep telling yourself that, pal.
Heath Reply:
June 29th, 2010 at 3:59 am
Bano, this video was made for you…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FL7yD-0pqZg
James Burland Reply:
June 28th, 2010 at 3:23 pm
There are some days when the stupidity on the internet gets to me, today is one of those days.
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Rob Reply:
June 29th, 2010 at 6:20 pm
I completely agree. Why people can’t just accept that a person’s choice of phone is based on what they need, not what the market says they need, I do not understand… I can’t even be bothered to read any more of the comments on this page.
Such is my confidence that my closing remark in this post (in spite of the fact that I haven’t thought it through and don’t really mean it) will cause a massive flaming, I’m not even going to return here to see.
Here’s that closing comment:
The iPhone is directed only at the image-conscious, and is outperformed by my friend’s Alcatel in every respect.
So there.
joecom Reply:
June 28th, 2010 at 4:37 pm
iphone is about the application not the hardware.
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Intosh Reply:
June 28th, 2010 at 9:24 pm
Didn’t iSheeps claim Apple will release a software fix for this?
iPhone is about form, not function.
20legend Reply:
June 28th, 2010 at 9:42 pm
Ah ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha….sweet lordy, whatever next!
What good is the software if the hardware is pants
Alex Reply:
June 28th, 2010 at 9:48 pm
true true
Dennis Reply:
June 28th, 2010 at 7:44 pm
The 5800 XM pwns the iPhone??? Hahahaha — I hadn’t laughed this hard yet today. Thanks for the joke.
Oh wait, you were serious? Hahahahahahaha. Even better than the bit about the 5800 XM pwning the iPhone.
Seriously, the only people who would say such a thing about that POS excuse for a phone are Nokia fanboys — that phone was garbage compared to other S60 devices. I know because I had to write software that targeted that device. Absolute rubbish.
You obviously haven’t tried an iPhone 4 — if your opinion is that the 5800 XM is the better phone after trying one, there is absolutely no hope for you.
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Bruno Reply:
June 28th, 2010 at 10:03 pm
At least, I can hold the 5800 XM anyway I want without suffering any decrease in signal strength and without having to use a $15 piece of rubber.
Stoli89 Reply:
June 30th, 2010 at 7:28 pm
I am sure the iPhone 4 is a better phone…but for the money, the 5800XM is a better value and both capable and reliable. I have used one for over 16 months…it does 2 way video calls on both 3G and wifi…it is not easily damaged…call quality is very good…and it has free turn by turn navigation. Of course, comparing a mid level phone to a flagship is a bit ridiculous, but if I were an iPhone fan I would still want some of the functionalities long present on the 5800XM. Just my opinion.
Ryan Reply:
June 28th, 2010 at 10:27 pm
O right so nearly the whole of wall street is retarded then?
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Stoli89 Reply:
June 30th, 2010 at 7:03 pm
Judging by the 2008/2009 results, retarded might be the nicest way to phrase an opinion of Wall Street.
Bryn Roberts Reply:
June 28th, 2010 at 11:53 pm
Note you say only retards ‘use’, then go on to say ‘useless’. Surely this isn’t possible. Wow… Think before you type.
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Bruno Reply:
June 29th, 2010 at 1:23 pm
Because they are retards, they somehow find a way of using something useless e.g. the giant iPhone aka iPad
None Reply:
June 28th, 2010 at 3:46 pm
But there is no issue.. Steve said it himself..
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drh Reply:
June 28th, 2010 at 4:21 pm
Nokia obviously has selective memory about their own phones
Although I could remember seeing this over the years on other handsets , I thought I would do a quick check to see if there was any pre-existing videos about. It didn’t take long to find some. These are not recent either, most of them were posted month’s or even years ago!
Here’s a few examples of specifically reception drops when holding various handsets:
HTC Droid Incredible:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eaDE941PzQk
Nexus One:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x2g5J4qPp54
Nokia E71:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gi1gHDa7-X0
Nokia 6230:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B_RP7Fn1w8Q
Nokia 6720:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yQ7t75Uo6qQ
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Intosh Reply:
June 28th, 2010 at 9:44 pm
All phones experience signal degration when *covering* the part where the antenna is. And if you search harder, you’ll find some guy somewhere experienced weird signal quirks with his phone, any phone.
For the iPhone 4, though, it’s a widely reported reproducible issue when holding your phone *naturally* (when you’re not even covering the antenna).
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Stoli89 Reply:
June 30th, 2010 at 7:19 pm
Signal attenuation is in play regardless of phone type. Many cell phone types can be shielded with one’s hand to reduce signal reception. Most phones today are designed with an internal antenna at the base of the phone to minimize signal energy to the inner ear canal. The issue with the iPhone 4 is more specific and related to an external antenna system where two discreet antennas (GPS/WiFi/Bluetooth and 2G/3G) may be conductively bridged through normal use. Most other established phone manufacturers have avoided this design approach because it does present both interference and attenuation challenges. However, the external array does lend itself to producing a very compact phone and is most suitable to Apple’s approach with the sandwich construction. In addition, there are plenty of other variables which could exacerbate the issue…conduction promoting moisture (perspiration, condensation, humidity) or even energy from one antenna migrating through the bridge to the other antenna. I think the silicone bumper can solve most of the problems here and I would hope that Apple eventually provides its customers an “approved” case FOC. I do think the iPhone 4 is a beautiful design, but for me the bigger issue is with the choice of glass for the rear panel and the glass fused Retina display on the front panel. This is a very delicate phone…for some this is A.O.K. For me it would be a bit impractical. Just my opinion and personal choice on the matter. With a bumper, I would imagine most iPhone users will be happy with there purchase.
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Anonymous Reply:
June 28th, 2010 at 4:32 pm
HAHAHAHA SHUT UP! Apple sucks.
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goosebumps Reply:
June 28th, 2010 at 6:14 pm
While i do find amusing the article and i do agree that the iphone’s hardware does have issues … comparing nokia’s os to apple’s ios is stupid. Even nokia doesn’t know which os to use … they are loosing here. And if you used it, you would agree with me that the iphone’s os is really good. For Nokia too bad for the hardware, because nokia phones are really good pieces of hardware …. a phone isn’t all about the hardware ….
And to say “apple sucks” shows me that you have a very small IQ, not that i like apple that much, but it’s just childish … oh well, people nowadays say whatever they want on the internet because they can hide behind a virtual name.
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senote Reply:
June 28th, 2010 at 7:10 pm
Sorry googebumps but the Nokia N900 beats the iphone as a smartphone. The ‘multi-tasking’ in IOS4 is a joke, it’s something apple have bodged together because their OS can’t handle proper multi-tasking. The folder structure is another joke. I used to be totally anti-apple, not so much any more but IOS4 is not all that.
As for all the guys cheering Nokia, look around the phone is becoming 2nd to the apps it runs, Apple have shown Nokia that and Nokia still don’t get it, whoever can deliver content in quality and quantity will come out on top and right now that is Apple.
riiight... Reply:
June 28th, 2010 at 7:47 pm
@senote: iOS is a proper – UNIX. The OS architecture fully supports preemptive the same multitasking available in OS X (and Linux, etc). That this ability is not exposed in the higher level APIs to apps in the app store is a product design decision, not a shortcoming of the software or hardware.
And what do you mean about the “folder structure?” It’s got /usr /bin and /etc directories like any other UNIX, as well.
mattyohe Reply:
June 28th, 2010 at 8:07 pm
Multi-tasking on iOS is a joke? The OS can’t handle it? Do you know what you’re talking about? No.
Of course it could handle multi-tasking (it’s OS X in there you know…), it was already doing so from day one.
Apple is concerned about performance and had to tune exactly what features they wanted to open up for developers to use for writing multitasking apps. It’s a great solution, and if you can’t see that, I’m sorry.
20legend Reply:
June 28th, 2010 at 9:47 pm
@mattyohe
Oh dear god, please stop before I wet myself with laughter!
Even my Symbian s60v3 powered N95 8Gb is capable of multi-tasking, without Nokia telling me what I can and can’t have running.
Stop kidding yourself that Apple do it for your benefit
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Ryan Reply:
June 28th, 2010 at 10:45 pm
20legend how in steves name does any nokia smart phone beat the iPhone omg I can’t believe you nokia fanboys with your little stylus’s and your dodgy email think that the symbian os beats the ios.
Look at the news and you tube channels I haven’t seen any hype over any of nokias phones. LONG LIVE KING OF TECH STEVE
senote Reply:
June 29th, 2010 at 1:24 am
@riiight… @mattyohe
I have iOS4 on my touch, which I believe works in the same way as the iPhone. Apps don’t run in the background, they suspend, if I want to switch between apps I have to double tab the home button to bring up the tray, if I want to close an app I have to actually hold down an icon till they wiggle. to make matters worse since I have yet to find a way to shut down an app this is the only way to close any app you open, though I haven’t spent a lot of time with the touch so maybe I am missing something there in which case please correct me.
@riiight… Re: the folder structure, I mean the nice way you can now organise the apps into folders which is great, as long as you only want 9 apps and short folder names, so I have my fun stuff in fun 1 and fun 2, my games in games 1 and games 2, maybe it’s revolutionary and that’s why I don’t get it, but for me it doesn’t work at all.
lear Reply:
June 28th, 2010 at 5:48 pm
iPhone, Apple, and sheeple deserve every trouncing they can get. Wake up, Apple fanboys and smell the fucking reality.
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Dave Reply:
June 28th, 2010 at 7:41 pm
Wow! You sound really upset that someone chose to use a different phone than you. Odd.
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lear Reply:
June 29th, 2010 at 5:40 am
Nope. Just upset that people, in this day and age, are still gullible and dense enough to defend a company whose CEO actually treats its users as half-wits. “Just don’t hold it that way”? Wow. Great advice, oh mighty Steve.
vpuik Reply:
June 28th, 2010 at 7:12 pm
According to Steve there is no issue so what’s the big deal?
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Intosh Reply:
June 28th, 2010 at 7:20 pm
iSheeps like to make fun of the competition but they can’t take a little joke. A bunch of juveniles. LOL
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Nathan Snyder Reply:
June 29th, 2010 at 1:22 am
Look at all the iFanboys! Come on, if Nokia/Android/RIM had this kind of an issue, you all would be all over it. Deal with it.
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Anonymous Reply:
June 29th, 2010 at 10:37 pm
Chastising Nokia for throwing stones from a glass house makes people apple fanboys now? E71/Nexus One/BB Bold all have similar reception issues, and guess what no one cared.
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Graham Reply:
June 29th, 2010 at 2:36 am
Ooops! Touchy fanboy alert!
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June 28th, 2010 at 1:36 pm
lol…this is brilliant. I tend to hold my phone with the left hand, but a top-mobile industry executive suggested recently that people should hold the phone with their right hand in order to avoid reception issues.
I’m wondering – could you suggest a way to hold the phone so one gets the best reception?
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June 28th, 2010 at 1:38 pm
I suggest trying this with an N97 Mini, I definitely lose 2 or 3 bars when cupping the lower left side. Never had a dropped call though.
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June 28th, 2010 at 1:41 pm
Loving the timing of this article. Can you hear the footsteps of all the apple apologists coming to defend against it?
They’ve had to come in person as the data connection drops every time they try to post.
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My Name is Reply:
June 29th, 2010 at 3:39 pm
LOL…LMAO!!
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IAmSnake Reply:
July 18th, 2010 at 1:23 am
HAHA!
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June 28th, 2010 at 1:44 pm
genius. simply genius, ladies and gentlemen! cant stop laughing right now
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June 28th, 2010 at 1:44 pm
Nokia it’s a cheap shot you have taken at Apple
” Of course, feel free to ignore all of the above because realistically, you’re free to hold your Nokia device any way you like. And you won’t suffer any signal loss. Cool, huh? “
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JJ Reply:
June 28th, 2010 at 1:51 pm
Farhan,
How a cheap shot it was by Apple to use Nokia’s slogan “Connecting people” in their ad? I think this is just brilliant joke. Don’t take it so seriously.
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Non-Fruit Based Product Reply:
June 28th, 2010 at 2:02 pm
That much is plain obvious by the title of the article.
Apple deserve everything that everywhere throws at them due to their questionable industry practices and arrogance.
It’s also known as karma.
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Lexihel Reply:
June 28th, 2010 at 5:47 pm
And what about “Get a Mac” add? But I think you think it was brilliant. “iDon’t”, “there’s a map for that” and now “how do you hold your Nokia” are just payback dude. Apple does, why can’t the others do it? Nokia is an awesome, successful brand, and is true what they say. No other mobile phone drops calls when you hold it the most natural way has ever existed. iPhone 4 does… THAT is cheap!
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Tim Reply:
June 28th, 2010 at 7:53 pm
“No other mobile phone drops calls when you hold it the most natural way has ever existed.” (sic)
Yeah! Well, except Nokia: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=amPG52DVQuk
But that was like a whole month ago! Ancient history!
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Junior Reply:
June 28th, 2010 at 6:43 pm
Haha! A cheap shot? Are you freaking kidding me? Have you read Steve Jobs’ personal letter bashing Adobe? Have you ever seen a Mac vs. PC ad? Apple has the sleaziest, lowest advertising and marketing practices I have ever seen in a company. There is no denying that Apple takes full advantage of every cheap shot opportunity it can grab, whether it is a genuine weakness they are targeting or a misrepresented and falsely perceived flaw. Apple deserves every bit of flak it gets.
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Intosh Reply:
June 28th, 2010 at 7:24 pm
Smug Apple fanatic calling this a cheap shot is the biggest irony I’ve come across since Apple and its 1984 commercial. LOL. Well done iSheep!
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June 28th, 2010 at 1:49 pm
I have big hands so I use The Claw. It’s the index, middle and thumb.
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June 28th, 2010 at 1:50 pm
Funny especially in light of the wonderful E71 having displayed similar reception issues to the iPhone 4, thought to have been a result of antenna placement and the metal casing.
Saying that I still love my E71.
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June 28th, 2010 at 1:53 pm
“perhaps with the exception of that teardrop 3G one, which was a bit ridiculous”
That made me LOL! Yes, that one was indeed a bit silly
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June 28th, 2010 at 1:53 pm
this is a great advantage of Nokia. it doesn’t matter at all how you hold it – it’s always the same crap…
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Intosh Reply:
June 28th, 2010 at 7:27 pm
Better have “crap” that can connect than useless crap that can’t…
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Anonymous Reply:
June 28th, 2010 at 9:40 pm
LMAOOOOO good point
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June 28th, 2010 at 1:56 pm
You all suck. If you were smart as I am, you would all buy a Nokia N900 like I did. And by what I saw on the Internet yesterday, iPhone seems to have little bit of complications and problems with the screen.
If you ignore 100,000 apps for iPhone that aren’t really useful, I don’t see any other reasons why you shouldn’t buy a Nokia rather than a lousy iPhone.
And like Farhan said, thank god there is no signal loss by holding the Nokia on the left nor the right hand.
Remember: iPhone is TOO overrated. I wouldn’t give more than 100$ for that piece of CRAP!
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Adrian Reply:
June 28th, 2010 at 3:50 pm
If you were smart you wouldn’t have bought the N900 because Maemo is already phased out by MeeGo which will continue on for a few years yet.
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NotEldar Reply:
June 29th, 2010 at 6:14 pm
And the relevance of MeeGo overtaking Maemo is … what? N900 is a Maemo 5 powered computer and will forever be that, with good and bad. It will still be more flexible and open than any iPhone release in the foreseeable future. And, according to Steve Job’s standards, you can also see porn with it. Which should be a plus for you.
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Anonymous Reply:
June 28th, 2010 at 9:45 pm
its funny how you say that because i work for a cell phone company and i see more nokias coming in for repairs than iphones. in a week 8 out of 10 nokia customers will come in complaining about something wrong with the phone, whether it be reception, sound problems, software issues or battery, etc. while the iphone is 2 out of 10. so before you talk, stfu! yeah the iphone 4 has proven to be a complete flop but hey nokias are the same crap, they’re all crap, phones aren’t meant to last because if they were they wouldn’t always be coming out with the “next new thing” or “upgrades”
& if you people don’t like the iphone commercials then change the channel when its on or something, no one is forcing you to watch it =)
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Joshua Reply:
June 29th, 2010 at 2:02 am
Maybe that’s because Nokia has more phones on the market than Apple.
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shandya Reply:
June 29th, 2010 at 5:20 am
maybe because there’s less people using iPhone than Nokia, silly
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Josh Abraham Reply:
July 2nd, 2010 at 7:06 pm
What is so difficult to understand, douchebag?
2 OUT OF 10 iPhone CUSTOMERS and 8 out of 10 Nokia CUSTOMERS
shandya Reply:
July 2nd, 2010 at 7:59 pm
Listen douchebag. on MAY 2010, Nokia has 47% marketshare while iPhone only has 18% marketshare. That means MORE PEOPLE USING Nokia than iPhone. So it’s not really a big deal at all if there are more repairs on Nokia than iPhone.
/A\V/ Reply:
July 3rd, 2010 at 10:05 pm
He’s talking 20 versus 80 percent, fool, not totals. This is basic math here.
June 28th, 2010 at 1:58 pm
Is this a sarcasm.. By the way I never noticed there are so many way to hold mobile phone.. Thanks Nokia!!
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June 28th, 2010 at 2:00 pm
I hold my Nokia the way I want. There is no problem with it.
I feel sorry for all those poor souls that wait for 30+ hours to buy their iPhone 4 that doesn’t work properly.
That’s Apple’s man slaughter there!!!
So humiliating!
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June 28th, 2010 at 2:02 pm
Dear Nokia –
Obvious dig at iPhone 4, quite funny though.
However let’s just address something: if you claim to have all these great patents around mobile phone technology, why haven’t you made a decent phone for years?
After several years of owning Panasonics and Ericsson phones, I remember getting an 8810 back in about 1998 (I think) and being in awe at the design and functionality of the device. I also owned a 6310 in 2001, and whilst not the best looking phone it was reliable and the battery lasted for ages. I recall that Nokia phones were simple, elegant, nicely designed and easy to use…but then what happened? For this ex-Nokia user, my perspective was that you simply lost the plot with terribly designed phones and rubbish software and that you lost your crown to the likes of Sharp and Sony Ericsson in about 2003-2006. And since the iPhone, I’ve never looked back.
regards,
Hedley; an ex-Nokia phone owner.
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Lynxus Reply:
June 28th, 2010 at 5:48 pm
They have made a decent phone.
The N95 8gb was awesome and the N900 is even better!
If you cant do something with the N900, Then your doing it wrong.
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June 28th, 2010 at 2:03 pm
Ha Ha Ha, perfect timing, kind of a cheep shot at “the competition” but hey no one said the battle for the consumers has to be a fair one.
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June 28th, 2010 at 2:07 pm
Very Funny ☺ – but I interpret this as a quite a desperate attempt to take advantage of an iPhone issue – I guess 1,7 million sold iPhone4 units tells another story. Anyway, Nokia probably make great mobile phones, but I think it’s funny that they use a “calculator” for this article – have you ever seen any less sexy phone than this? I would personally choose an iPhone4 with bad reception than carry this brick around.
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Adam Hepton Reply:
June 28th, 2010 at 2:24 pm
Apple user in “style over function” shocker!
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Guybrush Reply:
June 28th, 2010 at 5:56 pm
“I guess 1,7 million sold iPhone4 units tells another story.”
Millions of dropped calls in the near future?
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Intosh Reply:
June 28th, 2010 at 7:33 pm
Why did they call it an iPhone when it can’t make calls? I guess it might as well be called iDiot and iSheeps would buy it anyway.
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T Reply:
June 28th, 2010 at 8:09 pm
So you would rather pay through the nose for a fancy piece of glass that’s rubbish at doing what it’s meant to than be seen with a functional handset.
How depressing for humanity.
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Lexihel Reply:
June 28th, 2010 at 9:28 pm
Wait a minute! Why do you want an overpriced cool looking phone simulator if you can’t actually make calls or use data or anything? Dude you should then buy a Fisher Price, does the same and is cheaper… And get some help, too.
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My Name is Reply:
June 29th, 2010 at 3:45 pm
LOL….LMAOOO!!
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June 28th, 2010 at 2:10 pm
Got to admit this is a bit funny
LOL
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June 28th, 2010 at 2:14 pm
Can you explain this issue with Nokia E71 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=amPG52DVQuk
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Intosh Reply:
June 28th, 2010 at 8:05 pm
BS. This guy obviously was covering the entire bottom of the phone with his other hand.
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Nick Reply:
June 28th, 2010 at 9:08 pm
So you’re saying that the part of the article where they write “you’re free to hold your Nokia device any way you like. And you won’t suffer any signal loss.” is not true?
Oh wait, it’s a conspiracy by some “iSheep” to discredit other phone makers. Okay, that makes sense.
It’s comforting to know that there is clearly no way that you are anything like the Apple “fanboys” you rail against.
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Intosh Reply:
June 28th, 2010 at 9:51 pm
Oh you’re so right. Holding their phone under water won’t work either. False claim by Nokia.
I guess iSheeps are used to taking anything (Steve Jobs’ BS, for instance) literally.
Nick Reply:
June 29th, 2010 at 12:41 am
Really Intosh? That is your reply?
The whole point of this article was you can hold your Nokia any way you like and it won’t cause reception issues. Then when E71 posts a link to a video showing the exact same thing happening, your reply is that it’s BS because he must be covering the bottom with his hand, that is, holding it “incorrectly”.
Then you attempt to make some asinine remark about holding phones under water. How does your implied water damage have anything to do whatsoever with how one simply holds a phone?
But I am merely an “iSheep” for pointing that out. So what are you? Judging by the quality of your posts on this thread you are displaying far more blind devotion and irrationality than any Apple user on here.
Cognitive dissonance much?
Joshua Reply:
June 29th, 2010 at 2:15 am
Nick my friend, I’m sorry to have to be the one to point out to you that you are an imbecile. Actually, I’m not sorry that I was the one who had to tell you this.
Nick Reply:
June 30th, 2010 at 6:50 pm
I’m an imbecile why exactly? For pointing out Intosh’s absurdity? If that’s all it takes then I’m guilty as charged.
Things are so much easier to understand with rational, level-headed people such as yourself (and Intosh) providing such thoughtful, cogent points.
I applaud your efforts.
Nick Reply:
June 29th, 2010 at 7:24 pm
I am an imbecile how exactly? For pointing out Intosh’s absurdities? If that’s all it takes then I guess I am guilty as charged.
Things sure are easy to understand when rational, level-headed people such as yourself (and Intosh) provide such thoughtful, cogent points.
Thanks for all your effort.
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G Reply:
July 1st, 2010 at 1:20 pm
Nick, the video you defend was based on a single E71 and it’s user. There are millions of E71s being used around the world, and in day-to-day usage they work fine, else there would be millions of pissed off people and reports about it everywhere.
There are around 2 million iPhone 4s out, and many users have complained about this decreased signal phenomenon…
I personally will still buy the iPhone 4 for it’s looks, it’s only like 700 Euros unlocked…
June 28th, 2010 at 2:16 pm
The iPhone has issues, sure, but this is getting old. Try to get a proper operating system and then make fun.
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Douglas Reply:
June 28th, 2010 at 6:24 pm
It would seem to me that having a phone that can make calls reliably would trump having a pretty looking interface, since the entire purpose of having a phone is to make phone calls.
And a “proper” operating system is pretty subjective. Proper to you might mean having a pretty looking, brain dead simple interface, and being locked down by Apple’s strict limitations. But you might not care about features that I do.
So I’ll trade your pretty looking, brain dead interface for one that I think looks good, doesn’t have useless eye candy, can be a tad slow (but that’s where S^3 comes in), yet has mostly all of the functionality I’m looking for, in a package I’m looking for. Nothing is without faults, and Nokia/Symbian have plenty of them, but I’ll take them over Apple any day of the week.
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Allan Crain Reply:
June 28th, 2010 at 7:28 pm
The eye candy actually isn’t useless. It’s those little human-computer-interaction cues that a lot of self-styled “power users” dismiss as eye candy that really make iOS such a nice OS to use (and when other companies look at it, they just see the eye candy without the usefulness, so they think “We can add shiny buttons too and we’ll be just as good as Apple!” without actually understanding what they’re doing).
Example: Scrolling views. On an iPhone, any time you scroll a view by flicking it, it moves as quickly as you flicked it and then slows down to the end. If it hits the end, it bounces a bit. The simulated friction and the bounce at the end make it act like you’re actually moving a physical object, which means your monkey brain that has evolved to deal with physical objects doesn’t have to waste cycles, even subconsciously, on dealing with the fact that it’s interfacing with a computer. And the way that Apple has set up the code libraries, developers get those sorts of behavior for free when they use a UIScrollView object.
It’s little things like that that make iOS better than the other smartphone systems out there. The interface is filled with thoughtful considerations like that which make it so you can just forget that you’re working with a tiny computer and instead just interact in a very physical, visceral way with your data. It’s not braindead, it’s just *easier*.
Additionally: As an iPhone 4 owner, I’d say the reception issue is overblown. I can get the bars to drop if I’m actively trying to do so, but when I’m holding the phone normally in my left hand with my palm covering the spot that screws up the reception, it’s still perfectly usable.
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Nick Reply:
June 28th, 2010 at 9:27 pm
Useless eye candy.
This is a point that repeatedly comes up when someone is criticizing Apple products.
However, nobody ever explains what that means, as though it is supposed to be plainly obvious. What about iOS is useless eye candy? Just because something is thoughtfully designed and doesn’t hurt your eyes to look at means it is useless eye candy?
Please provide specifics as to what about the iOS, to you, can be considered useless eye candy.
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June 28th, 2010 at 2:18 pm
I love it that nokia put the article SMILE before this one… It’s really make me smile
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June 28th, 2010 at 2:20 pm
Hey – a great chat up line & ice breaker. I could use that sometime.
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June 28th, 2010 at 2:21 pm
the balance..its d most easiest wa for me to hold my nokia n97 as i m a left handed person..
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June 28th, 2010 at 2:32 pm
it’s a pity you didn’t show the device on. that thing looks bricked.
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June 28th, 2010 at 2:38 pm
Pretty cheap shot really, would have thought Nokia would have more to occupy them than this?
>”We wouldn’t recommend this as being practical for phone >calls, but it does work great for messaging and device >navigation”
Always assuming you can see it on the 2.4″ screen?
>”You’ll find a little gap develops between the back of the >phone and the palm, which is useful. For something”
It is useful, as with the E72 it means you don’t get to feel the nasty sensation caused by the poorly fitted back cover.
“on high-end Nokia devices either”
Yeah, right, remind me again how good you guys are doing in high-end at the moment.
Kev
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Anonymous Reply:
June 28th, 2010 at 7:21 pm
hilarious
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cptKlutz Reply:
June 28th, 2010 at 7:52 pm
Kev, try n900. Seriously!
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Anonymous Reply:
June 29th, 2010 at 12:03 am
Tried it mate. Hated it like no other device ever.
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June 28th, 2010 at 2:38 pm
I think with most phones you get some signal loss depending on how you hold them but for Steve Jobs to say ‘Don’t hold hold it like that’ was not the best quote at the time lol!
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June 28th, 2010 at 2:40 pm
This is silly and inelegant. Why try to tease your competitors instead of making yours ACTUALLY better? It’s a shame to see how Nokia has changed from a respectable company into a sneaky cheap company.
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Guybrush Reply:
June 28th, 2010 at 6:00 pm
Have you ever heard of the “I’m a PC” ads? Remember who made them?
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mmeee Reply:
June 28th, 2010 at 6:08 pm
“tease your competitors instead of making yours ACTUALLY better?”… WOrked for apple. Oh the irony.
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June 28th, 2010 at 2:42 pm
around 2.4 millions phones sold untill today (iphone 4). And such topics show only a one thing – Nokia lost battle for high-end market. Again. And again.
Stop moaning – make good products.
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Non-Fruit Based Product Reply:
June 28th, 2010 at 3:04 pm
Was that comment sponsored by Apple Eldar or are you still in Samsung’s pocket?
Anyway good to see you are still bitter about the whole “N8″ thing, really shows what a poor quality blogger you are.
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Police Reply:
June 28th, 2010 at 4:16 pm
Awww the common criminal dealing with stolen property appears to offer advice
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Non-Fruit Based Product Reply:
June 28th, 2010 at 11:04 pm
Have you seen eldars tweets? What a pathetic bitter little man. Ever since nokia biatch slapped him he’s been nothing but childish.
Once a respected blogger, now nothing more than a standing joke.
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NotEldar Reply:
June 29th, 2010 at 6:05 pm
This is not Eldar, his English is not that good
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June 28th, 2010 at 2:43 pm
Please tell me you guys are making fun of Apple.
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June 28th, 2010 at 2:45 pm
Awesomest sarcasm
But IMHO don’t be too rude against the iPhone, it was the iPhone which brought the revolution in the way touch screen phones should work.
Many of the current world’s Nokia, HTC are a great copy of some or other feature of iPhone.
Cheers for any good work whosoever (iPhone, Nokia, HTC or else) is bringing up for people !!
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June 28th, 2010 at 2:46 pm
What is it about Nokia users constantly bashing the iphone? It’s not Apple’s fault Nokia have fallen behind recently. it’s pretty simple update the symbian U
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June 28th, 2010 at 2:46 pm
Nokia : didn’t your stock holders blast your CEOs a few days back for not having been able to come up with anything you could call an ‘iPhone competitor’ (forget ‘killer’) !?
If Apple appeared in the cell phone market with you or some years before, your asses would have been history by now. Please continue making cheap dumpshit and keep the satire safe in a box.
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June 28th, 2010 at 2:47 pm
What is it about Nokia users constantly bashing the iphone? It’s not Apple’s fault Nokia have fallen behind recently. it’s pretty simple update the symbian UI design some desirable phones and that it u back in the game.
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June 28th, 2010 at 2:50 pm
“Your device may have internal and external antennas. Avoid
touching the antenna area unnecessarily while the antenna
is transmitting or receiving. Contact with antennas affects the
communication quality and may cause a higher power level
during operation and may reduce the battery life.”
N97 Mini User Guide page 13.
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20legend Reply:
June 28th, 2010 at 9:56 pm
Where does it say that it will cause TOTAL LOSS of communication?
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Anonymous Reply:
June 29th, 2010 at 12:05 am
And you have an iPhone 4 that does do you? Thought not.
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Roj Reply:
June 29th, 2010 at 5:02 pm
If you start off in an area with a less than perfect signal then you can cause a connection to drop by attenuating the signal by placing your hand around the antenna.
Obviously if you’re in an area with a very powerful signal then this is less likely.
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June 28th, 2010 at 2:50 pm
i use THUMB N FINGER method……….
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June 28th, 2010 at 2:51 pm
you will need an app to hold the iphone in all those position, all you apple fan girls are crying about how the e72 looks like a brick?? so what? its a sexy brick at makes calls!! when was the last time you did that with your iphone 4? don’t worry i will wait!…lol
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June 28th, 2010 at 3:01 pm
How do we have to hold the Nokia E71 to have no problem of reception?
This is the problem in video : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=amPG52DVQuk
Have a nice day
iMan
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Intosh Reply:
June 28th, 2010 at 8:08 pm
Looks like an iSheep made a video so that other iSheep can propagate on the net.
BS video. This guy obviously was covering the entire bottom of the phone with his other hand.
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June 28th, 2010 at 3:04 pm
Are you blind or what?? E72 is only .5 mm thicker than iphone and you call it brick..!!
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June 28th, 2010 at 3:05 pm
Are you blind or what?? E72 is only .5 mm thicker than iphone 4 and you call it brick..!! Lol I see how funny you are..
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Niraj Reply:
June 28th, 2010 at 3:07 pm
Sorry my reply was to Jens almighty..
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June 28th, 2010 at 3:05 pm
Just cuz Nokia got pwned by Apple, then they must make fun of iPhone/Apple. How does it feel to get owned by a computer company Nokia? Apple did one phone and it become more popular than all of Nokias phones togheter! Nokia failed!
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vpuik Reply:
June 28th, 2010 at 8:02 pm
Can you back that up somehow?
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shandya Reply:
June 29th, 2010 at 5:31 am
obviously you haven’t seen “Hi I’m a MAC” ads where Apple continuously bashes PC.
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June 28th, 2010 at 3:06 pm
“The key function on any Nokia device is its ability to make phone calls.”
Ok, Nokia. The world knows the only thing you can still do it right is to make mobile phones with the ability to make phone calls.. it’s great to know you finally realize your inability to make smart phones that excel beyond calls..
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Intosh Reply:
June 28th, 2010 at 8:11 pm
So I guess you prefer an i*Phone* that can’t make phone calls and can’t connect to the web? LOL
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June 28th, 2010 at 3:10 pm
Nice one Nokia, very nice.
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June 28th, 2010 at 3:20 pm
Nokia,
Don’t you think this is the good time to start selling your N8 product?
C’mon nokia…. we’re really itching to show others it’s not about technology, it’s about what i wanna do with it (N8).
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June 28th, 2010 at 3:23 pm
IMHO You are making yourself a joke. In first preview of N8 you said that N8 is a slow phone, it is even slower than SE Vivaz and the Amoled used on N8 is cheap quality and same as Google Nexus one. You have blame Nokia so much for these two matters.
And now in your second preview you turned U, now saying N8 is fastest symbian phone and Amoled used on N8 is better than one used on Nexus one.
Whats that Mobile insider Eldar Murtazin?? After reading your second review I only find out one concern on N8, that is Web browser.. By the way Nokia really needs to improve the webbrowser or atleast give the Meamo web browser on Nokia N8.
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June 28th, 2010 at 3:26 pm
The real question is:
WHY would you hold a Nokia?
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Anonymous Reply:
June 28th, 2010 at 9:56 pm
LMAO good question
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Kay Reply:
June 29th, 2010 at 4:33 am
Because you cant hold iPhone, i will hold on to my Nokia.
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shandya Reply:
June 29th, 2010 at 5:33 am
because it can makes call.
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June 28th, 2010 at 3:27 pm
Check the E71!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gi1gHDa7-X0
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June 28th, 2010 at 3:43 pm
Very nice but I’ve had E71 and N97 mini and they both (the first one expecially) loose signal when you hold them in your hand, no matter how!!
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Kay Reply:
June 29th, 2010 at 4:34 am
no it doesn’t. I have used Nokia for almost 16 years now. none of them have any of issues so far.
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Kay_lies Reply:
July 27th, 2010 at 2:24 am
I have owned Nokia for definitely 17 years and they all have had issues.
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June 28th, 2010 at 3:48 pm
I hold my Nokia in the 1990’s where it belongs – oooooooo burn
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Intosh Reply:
June 28th, 2010 at 8:14 pm
Funny that an 1990’s phone can do better than an iPhone, like make phone calls?! LOL
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Sean Ayroso Reply:
July 3rd, 2010 at 1:14 pm
Haha! good one! ^_^
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ranggaw0636 Reply:
July 13th, 2010 at 4:08 am
i grip it with the cup grip :p
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June 28th, 2010 at 4:17 pm
Sigh.. Obviously the proper way to hold Nokia phone is shown here: http://imgur.com/R25pI.jpg
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June 28th, 2010 at 4:25 pm
You say that I am free to hold my Nokia device any way I like and the device will not suffer any signal loss. So I took my beloved Nokia phone and held it under the water. And guess what: Signal immediately lost, device broken. I call this a “false promise”.
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teme Reply:
June 29th, 2010 at 10:09 am
You must be American. Hope that manual says not to do that, if not get lawyer and sue for billions. Works for yankees.
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June 28th, 2010 at 4:28 pm
I would have loved to see this as a fun little video instead of a blog post. Still, I can’t help but love it when companies shoot each other the bird via marketing.
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June 28th, 2010 at 4:29 pm
I have not held my nokia phone since the 3Gs came out. It’s been in the drawer next to all my other electronic junks.
so, how do I hold my Nokia? if Nokia resale vaule were high enough, i would sell it on ebay…. instead, it’s in a junk drawer.
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June 28th, 2010 at 4:30 pm
Oh common people. Of course this is a shot at Apple and it’s a well deserved one. The iPhone is an iPHONE… not an “iPod with occasional phone capabilities when conditions allow”. Its primary purpose is to make PHONE calls and when Apple RnD misses such a catastrophic design flaw affecting the device’s primary purpose they should catch some flack. When Apple then comes out with public statements saying there is no flaw and the user is holding the device wrong they should be outright mocked. It’s completely indefensible. Anyone who doesn’t see this has one heck of a set of Apple blinders on.
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Anonymous Reply:
June 29th, 2010 at 12:11 am
Actually you have hit on a really important point here. I woul argue that the whole point of an iPhone is NOT to make a phone call. I would argue that it will vary with each user. Speaking personally my iPhone 4 just does not have any issues making calls and getting data, in fact it is much better than my 3GS and my old N97 for reception. But I understand you may want to invent facts rather than listen to me so I will let you get back to your Nokia.
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Samuel Reply:
June 29th, 2010 at 8:42 am
This is also how I understood this blog post, to give Apple what it has been asking for.
I’ve never undestrood what’s so good and special about iPhones, they are huge and cost much more than a PHONE should, especially when they are not usable for phonecalls.
I have 4 years old Nokia, and with it I can give and receive phonecalls, write and receive SMS/MMS messages, take (crappy) photos/videos and send them as MMS, listen to mp3s and radio, browse the web and chat at IRC. And it did cost what I think a PHONE should cost at max.
And everything works the way I expect them to work. Calls do not disconnect (unless calling with Apple fanboy friends) and the photoquality is crappy as in every camera that has so tiny lens, but in good conditions I can take photoes to send via MMS.
And the best part is that I can fit my old Nokia to the small “watch pocket” in my blue jeans, so it doesn’t get scratched with my keys.
But it’s nice to know why the calls from my Apple fanboy friends get disconnected all the time, while other calls don’t.
Free tip for all iPhone users:
Maybe the old pantyhose could come to rescue with iPhone usage? Put the iPhone on your ear and pull a pantyhose over your head, maybe it will stay connected when calling?
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kevwright Reply:
June 29th, 2010 at 11:17 am
I want to congratulate you on missing the point of my reply so well.
You are stuggling, so let me write this in an easier way to understand.
1. My iPhone 4 is better on signal and call quality than the 3GS I just sold. It makes calls fine and it gets data fine,
2. Your post just shows that you are either completely happy with your old Nokia, or you simply can not afford an iPhone.
In either case, why would you be compelled to comment here?
Kev
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Samuel Reply:
June 29th, 2010 at 12:18 pm
I’m very happy with my old Nokia, it works – so why not be satisfied with it. I value the possibility to make and answer calls with a PHONE. Small size and everything else is just bonus.
PS. If I would need/want a new phone I could easily afford many (maybe not GoldVish ‘Le Million’ Piece Unique), but iPhone’s price is not the only reason I wouldn’t buy one, although it is way too expensive for a PHONE (with a hardware problem).
And for what I know, this is “Nokia Conversations”, which means that commenting is allowed, also for me – the not Apple fanboy.
June 28th, 2010 at 4:30 pm
That is wonderful that you can hold a Nokia however you like.
Will you please tell me how to turn on the “facetime” feature on my Nokia? Or how to record video in HD? I cannot seem to get those to work properly.
Oh yeah… Nokia does not have those features.
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Niraj Reply:
June 28th, 2010 at 5:02 pm
@ Kopepasah
Are you blind n dumb?? Dont you hear about N8?? The facetime you are talking only works between iphone 4 to iphone 4 and only when both phones are on wifi hotspot.. Face time = #Fail
Nokia phones have secondry camera for years and you can make video call, and use it as web cam.. You have full freedom on Nokia.. And upcoming N8 also has hd video recording..
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Erik Reply:
June 28th, 2010 at 6:36 pm
facetime? lol?
FYI.. i have been using video calls for the past 6 years.. and now apple comes up with facetime and u call that a revolution function? wake up.. u have been living in a well..
outside of america, we have been doing video calls.. its a miracle that u guys get to do wat we are doing 5 year ago *finally*
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vpuik Reply:
June 28th, 2010 at 8:00 pm
For face time you can go to your contacts and hit the call button and select the video call option. I can do that on my $200 unlocked phone. HD video recording we’ll have to wait for another 2 months.
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Intosh Reply:
June 28th, 2010 at 8:26 pm
Facetime. LOL indeed.
A useless wifi-only feature. Even Apple realized iPhone 4 owners won’t have anyone to call with that thing so they hired people to answer a test number that iSheeps can “facetime” to.
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Sirfoxelot Reply:
June 29th, 2010 at 10:31 am
“Facetime”??? Oh you mean video calling!
Yeah we’ve had that for years
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June 28th, 2010 at 4:31 pm
Oh very clever
. 10 points for completing defeating the new iPhone’s FAIL antenna with this post.
“Nokia – our antennas work just fine, thank you very much”. Use it, don’t use it…
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June 28th, 2010 at 4:31 pm
lol
Yes you may be able to hold a nokia in any way but at least the iphone software works and is the best in the world.
I’ve used Nokia’s for the last 10 years and still don’t have an iphone (I’m waiting to see what happens about the antenna issue).
In the time I’ve used Nokia’s the software has become buggier and buggier, my n96 is slow, buggy, it crashes…
Nokia can’t really talk. They have their own problems, much bigger ones.
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gabe Reply:
June 28th, 2010 at 5:54 pm
The software works. Too bad the phone doesn’t lol.
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June 28th, 2010 at 4:36 pm
Very amusing and n-gaging article…
seewhatididthere?
http://www.sidetalkin.com
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June 28th, 2010 at 4:36 pm
LMFAO! And yes I’m an iPhone 4 user…but I’ve not noticed the dropped call issue. I’ve had my phone since Thursday but I’ve not actually spoken to anyone on it yet
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Nuno Pereira Reply:
June 28th, 2010 at 5:48 pm
lol
You bought a 800$ phone to let it rest for 4 days? ok…
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June 28th, 2010 at 4:39 pm
Interestingly, this contradicts your own user guides, which say this, right next to an illustration of the proper way to hold the phone:
“Your device may have internal and external antennas. Avoid touching the antenna area unnecessarily while the antenna is transmitting or receiving. Contact with antennas affects the communication quality and may cause a higher power level during operation and may reduce the battery life”
http://cl.ly/1UnL
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June 28th, 2010 at 4:43 pm
Makes me want to buy a Nokia.
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June 28th, 2010 at 4:47 pm
what you say is not truth,see this video and you will got the answer:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_8VJgv294Zs&feature=player_embedded
all the device have this problem the Iphone 4 is not an excepition!
Nokia you have to know that the system make different…
After Iphone Nokia you are dead…
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Intosh Reply:
June 28th, 2010 at 8:33 pm
That’s squeezing your phone, not holding it.
Yes, all phones may lose reception if antenna is covered but iPhone 4 lose reception when holding it naturally. See the difference? LOL
After iPhone, there’s freedom from the walled-garden.
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June 28th, 2010 at 4:47 pm
love the article, and great that nokia are biting apples behind, but i must point out that my n97 and n900 both drop signal severely when held in the hand in low signal areas, fortunately holding them upside down by the top brings the signal back to full but i didnt see a picture of that up there lol
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June 28th, 2010 at 4:49 pm
The only way to hold a Nokia is with a gun in your other hand – held to your head.
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June 28th, 2010 at 4:51 pm
I remember attending a Nokia analyst meeting in 2003 when Nokia reps showed us the “proper” way to hold a mobile phone to prevent signal interference. It was the Thumb and Finger method. Nokia has managed to fix that aspect of their phones, at least. Too bad they still continue to use the same OS as they did then for most of their devices.
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June 28th, 2010 at 5:05 pm
Nokia, I have a number for you…
1.7 million.
Have a great day.
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Intosh Reply:
June 28th, 2010 at 8:36 pm
iSheep, here’s another number:
38% worldwide marketshare.
Have a wonderful day.
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Anonymous Reply:
June 29th, 2010 at 12:15 am
Yeah those £80 PAYG 5230’s are awesome.
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Kay Reply:
June 29th, 2010 at 4:40 am
Another Number… That 1.7 was a 4 day number
Now here is your number…. Nokia 1 Million+ A DAY! and EVERYDAY since 2006 …
Have a nice day :p
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kevwright Reply:
June 29th, 2010 at 11:19 am
No, it was 3 days, but what the hell.
I have another word, look it up.
Profit.
Kev
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June 28th, 2010 at 5:12 pm
LMAO OMG WTF inspired you guys. Well, with my 3310, I can even push it up where the sun does not shine and still get the reception I want.
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June 28th, 2010 at 5:23 pm
Fantastic- I can hold my hideous Nokia phone that runs software and has capabilities from circa 1990 any way I want. Yayyyy! Nokia phones are crap.
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Intosh Reply:
June 28th, 2010 at 8:37 pm
Or, you can hold a beautiful brick that can’t make phone calls.
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kevwright Reply:
June 29th, 2010 at 11:21 am
Boy, you are conflicted.
First of all you admit the iPhone 4 is “beautiful”. Its OK you can’t afford one you know, there is no need to be here 24/7 covering up your secret desire to own one.
Then, the iPhone 4 is a brick? If you had any credibility to lose, that would have done it.
Its OK, you never had it. Phew.
Kev
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June 28th, 2010 at 5:25 pm
I had an N97 for 6 months, no matter how I held it the signal was weak, the firmware was even weaker! Most of the time I wanted to throw it at the wall. I’d had Nokias for over 10 years, they won’t get any more of my hard earned dosh after the N97.
I now have an Apple 3GS, although some may criticise it, my experiences with the N97 make it look superb. It actually does what it says on the box and doesn’t spontaneously stop working for half a day then just as spontaneously start again!
Whilst I agree that Apple seem to have shot themselves in the foot with the iPhone 4, I would suggest to Nokia that those that live in glass houses…….
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Mark 0 Reply:
July 1st, 2010 at 4:01 pm
I currently own an N97 and oho yes there are bugs. And oho yes it annoys the hell out of me and oho yes you have to format and flash it every 6 – 8 months or so to make it “reliable” again, but I still wouldnt buy an Iphone. I would however buy an HTC. I wish Nokia would release a modern version of the N92 I would love a phone like that.
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June 28th, 2010 at 5:25 pm
The problem here is the Nokia looks like shit…
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June 28th, 2010 at 5:27 pm
hahahaha, hillarious, no really.
now go make an OS that’s worth anything.
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June 28th, 2010 at 5:33 pm
See here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B_RP7Fn1w8Q&feature=player_embedded
*AHEM*.
Bet that wiped the smile off your face!
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Intosh Reply:
June 28th, 2010 at 8:43 pm
Pathetic attempt. All those videos popping up now to supposedly demonstrate the same problem with other phones.
Notice how all these videos zoom in very close? Hiding something maybe?
iSheep’s full of crap.
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kevwright Reply:
June 29th, 2010 at 11:23 am
Try this one. Shot today. By Me.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cbZYmWB8KiQ
Kev
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June 28th, 2010 at 5:38 pm
Wow! Nokia, do you still selling that model??!!
In fact, do you still selling phones?
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lol Reply:
June 30th, 2010 at 1:45 pm
Dude, learn English before you post your stupid comments.
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June 28th, 2010 at 5:40 pm
Nokia…! I know this idea was funny and brilliant, but before you’re in such a big mouth maybe u should try hold E71 tight like the first picture, the signal lost!!!! Similar to iPhone4 problems. I tried it again hold my e71 this night, still the same. So can I have a replace? N8 maybe?
Of course, Do not feel free to ignore all of E71 users because they will suffer lots of signal loss just same as the iPhone4. ironic, huh?
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June 28th, 2010 at 5:43 pm
Wow! So many ways to hold your Nokia phone and lose power to your screen! I mean look at all those blank screen images of that phone no matter which way you hold it!
Me personally, I would hold that Nokia phone in my left hand between my forefinger and thumb, with my arm extended outward, away from my chest, with my head turned the opposite direction, while my free right hand, I would use my thumb and forefinger to pinch the nostrils of my nose closed as I head to the proper waste disposal container…
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shandya Reply:
June 29th, 2010 at 5:41 am
you are idiot. the phone is either turned off or in standby mode, dumbass.
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NokiaPermitsProfanity Reply:
July 27th, 2010 at 2:36 am
Nokia permits profanity? Sad, sad company Nokia is.
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June 28th, 2010 at 5:43 pm
Nice try
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gi1gHDa7-X0
btw, I have seen enough threads in Nokia forums with these issues in “flagship” E series
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June 28th, 2010 at 5:45 pm
Awsome article by Nokia!!! A slap in the fqce for apple for everything they stole from Nokia and other companies! Hahaha
5800rulz, iphone sux 4ever!!!! =))))))
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June 28th, 2010 at 5:46 pm
Nokia SHAME on you. I am a customer of yours but with this ridicolous post Im thinking about switching to iPhone 4 (my sister bought one and there is no signal issue). Shame on you from an ex customer of yours.
You have no balls to buold a great device like the iPhone and so what? use this poor methods?
bye bye nokia..
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Junior Reply:
June 28th, 2010 at 10:16 pm
Are you kidding? Have you never noticed Apple’s advertising practices? It’s disgusting and pathetic. Mac vs PC ads are a perfect example. They are misleading, use false stereotypes, and are incredibly demeaning. What’s more, they are simply mean. Watching them left a bad taste in my mouth, especially knowing how much of what is presented is false. So go ahead, switch to Apple because Nokia had a joke article about a real problem. Just don’t continue the ridiculous illusion that Apple does not rip on any other tech company every chance it gets (Adobe, Microsoft, Nokia, HTC, etc.). It’s disgusting.
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JuniorLies Reply:
July 27th, 2010 at 2:37 am
Your sad Junior. Apple is best. Windows and Nokia both garbage. You WinNokFanboy!
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June 28th, 2010 at 5:55 pm
nice… i’m just surprised apple fanboys are everywhere. had one tell me recently that iphony brought gps, facebook, twitter, remote control.. yada yada.what did nokia bring? until i told him we did that before there was an iphony… well iphony is good for the spoon fed average consumer, no doubt but its way overrated and overpriced. smart phones should not need paid apps to make it smarrt in the first place.
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June 28th, 2010 at 5:56 pm
Yeah right!
Even Nokia has reception problems when you hold the phone:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=amPG52DVQuk
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Intosh Reply:
June 28th, 2010 at 8:54 pm
Not when you’re holding it naturally.
That, only iPhone 4 does.
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Anonymous Reply:
June 29th, 2010 at 12:22 am
You are getting extremely annoying now. You don’t own an iPhone 4 and have no idea beyond what you have read online.
These bloody Nsheep are getting bothersome now.
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Itoshiscrap Reply:
July 27th, 2010 at 2:40 am
Holding iPhone 4 naturally = tons of reception and no loss of calls. My Nokia has bad reception.
Those are the facts.
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June 28th, 2010 at 5:57 pm
Maybe instead to mock others, begin to just do good phones?
Nokia fans (means: me…) eagerly looking forward to it.
(And No. Symbian phone is not considered “good phone “…)
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June 28th, 2010 at 5:57 pm
The best way I’ve seen : http://bit.ly/99Yhtt
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June 28th, 2010 at 6:07 pm
LOL iphone sux!
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U Reply:
July 27th, 2010 at 2:40 am
LOL Nokia Sux!
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June 28th, 2010 at 6:11 pm
very nice and true
i have the E71 for about 2 years and it’s wonderful with no problems and i can hold it as i like
to bad the new expansive Iphone4 can’t mach that
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June 28th, 2010 at 6:12 pm
Damn! You Nokia guys are so clever…
Someone (App**) goofs up, and you instantly take advantage of the situation…!
Its’ not unethical since you never mentioned Apple, but its just sort of funny..
On a serious note, I would say that you focus on real problems faced by users of N97, X6, etc…
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June 28th, 2010 at 6:12 pm
For everyone bashing Nokia. Chances are you network operator is using a Nokia Siemens Network. I’ve had Nokia’s in past and I’m now on an Android based device. My network is still powered by Nokia Siemens as is one quarter of the worlds calls. Maybe they have just shifted direction from making the phones to making the networks?
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June 28th, 2010 at 6:21 pm
i love how all you apple lovers are up in arms. “OH Nokia what a cheep shot” honestly it’s funny that these fanboys are still defending something that’s crap. honestly i’ve been proven wrong about certain devices being poorly made or with major faults, at least i have to good grace to admit that i was wrong and that the device is question was a toatal failure. please winy apple lovers stop being so stupid.
yours truely someone who knows good tech from bad tech.
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June 28th, 2010 at 6:21 pm
Apple should post a blog called “how to sell 1.7 million phones in a day” to make Nokia jealous
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Intosh Reply:
June 28th, 2010 at 8:57 pm
LOL. Nokia has been hitting these kinds of numbers for years now.
Get out of your rock, iSheeps. It’s getting ridiculous.
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June 28th, 2010 at 6:23 pm
Hey Nokia,
You best not live in a glass house if you are going to start throwing stones.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=amPG52DVQuk
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Intosh Reply:
June 28th, 2010 at 8:59 pm
A bunch of iSheeps coming here and post the same questionable video.
Why don’t you zoom out and show that you’re actually holding the phone naturally?
Try harder, iDiots.
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Emergency Services Reply:
June 29th, 2010 at 12:17 am
@Intosh
Are you a professional P**ck, judging by the amount of useless bigoted comments you seem to make on this post, and your complete undying love of Nokia and Hate of Apple you seem like you need some serious help. Get a life, stop hating, get a girlfriend and stop making love to your phone, you obviously got some frustration!!!
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U Reply:
July 27th, 2010 at 2:42 am
Get a girlfriend! lol He can’t, too much hatred.
June 28th, 2010 at 6:29 pm
nokia, you should probably put more of your time and resources into catching up with apple.
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June 28th, 2010 at 6:36 pm
hey guys..m having a n86 n while h
olding it the foresaid way,it looses 2-3 bars.i guess its nt abt apple or nokia..its abt the hardware of best phones…
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June 28th, 2010 at 6:40 pm
What a nonesence bullcrap it is about antenna??? Is human being really can interrupt radio waves? Guys come on, phone works in half foot walls, like schools and some hospitals, but human being is really capable of blocking radio waves??? I think its all bullcrap! There has to be something else that is wrong with iphone or any phone in this matter if you touch it and you are losing your service! I think its simply a design flaw that somehow does not like human beings! I like old style cellphones with antenna that you can pull out, those were the real cellphones, these are just toys to play games and look on the MAP for directions, since we become so stupid that in our own town we cannot find anything anymore, and we cannot see anything without iphone or other app that is made for iphone! It makes me sick in the stomach of how everything made to help human being is actually helping him to become more and more stupid! Those first Gen Nokia 5100 ROCKS!!! If I could I would still use that, and for emails I can use my laptop and for maps, there is always GOOGLE MAPS, or MICROSOFT STREETS AND TRIPS! I think its time to become normal, we are being brainwashed by Steve Jobs, the pastor of apple religion, and trust me that religion is not good, just like any other religion…Apple will not save your life!
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brad162 Reply:
June 29th, 2010 at 5:21 am
you do realize that radio waves are electronic waves, your body has electricity running through it (how do you think your brain talks to the rest of your body)
It’s why when you touch a line-in on an Amp it will buzz, because you’re electrical current is interfering with the device.
Now, apple’s design was brilliant in idea, but if they’d simply have put a clear scratch resistant coating on the thing it would have solved the issue, any phone if you take the housing off and touch the antenna directly you will see attenuation, but im sure a majority of people here do not understand how electronic radio waves work.
Give it a rest, and everyone needs to get over themselves.
I own a E73, iPhone 2g, iPhone 3Gs, and iPhone 4, and god knows how many nokia phones in a drawer over here, They all have their weakness, and nokia’s being the ancient Symbian OS that seems to take a million clicks to accomplish even the most simple task, but at the same time it has amazing signal and battery life, so i keep with them, While the iPhone makes things easy with the interface that “just works”, it’s not so good for more than a day or so of usage and signal is a little spotty out int the boon docks, so i keep both and go back and fourth depending on my mood/need that day.
People just need to get over themselves, i have an iPhone 4 sitting right in front of me with a case on it, and it actually has better signal strength than the previous models (even makes at&t look kind of good even though their network sucks here).
I dont care what anyone says but the signal is not nearly as bad as my LG or Samsung phones. those things are by far the worst with battery/signal that i have ever seen, and LG’s wonky software tops everyone for issues.
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June 28th, 2010 at 6:47 pm
O’rly?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B_RP7Fn1w8Q
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Intosh Reply:
June 28th, 2010 at 9:06 pm
Of course, we should believe whatever we see on Youtube, especially when it’s a video from MACrumors.com about some other company’s phone.
Oh, by the way, there’s still two bars of signal. Nokia 6230 = 1, iSheeps = 0.
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U Reply:
July 27th, 2010 at 2:44 am
Nokia 6230 2 bars = no reception, 100% dropped calls.
NokSheeps = 0, AppleAwesomeness – 1
get the facts straight.
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June 28th, 2010 at 6:50 pm
We all hold our Nokias like this: http://www.google.com/images?q=sidetalkin
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June 28th, 2010 at 6:52 pm
Article is funny it doesn’t matter. Apple just pulled in $1 billion in revenue in one weekend from one device before any sales of peripherals, e-books, mobile me, music, movies, TV shows, apps or iAds.
LIke that’s going to happen with any Android/Palm/WinMo/RIM/Nokia device any time in the near future.
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June 28th, 2010 at 6:55 pm
This issue is getting blown way out of proportion, considering that plenty of instruction manuals for phones from Nokia (and heck, most—if not all—manufacturers) recommend that users do not hold the phones in one way or another because of signal interference and degradation.
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Intosh Reply:
June 28th, 2010 at 9:02 pm
Does the Nokia manual say not to hold it naturally? And signal degradation doesn’t mean signal lost.
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David Chartier Reply:
June 29th, 2010 at 12:10 am
Judge for yourself, since Apple (and no manufacturer) has said “don’t hold it naturally.” I’ve used my iPhone 4 in my left hand “naturally” to make plenty of phone calls already:
http://funsizebytes.com/post/745721120/instructions-from-my-nokia-2320-which-boil-down-to
Also, for your video demonstration pleasure, here’s a Nokia E71 displaying complete signal loss as well. Except, the plot thickens—it’s held in the right hand:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=amPG52DVQuk
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RJ Reply:
June 29th, 2010 at 2:20 pm
You people are dumb… the antenna of the iphone4 is on the lower left, that’s why Steve said avoid thouching it on that side of the phone (lower left)…
If ever the antennae of the E71 was on the lower right, then covering that area with your right hand would surely affect the signal…
different phones have different antenna positions, some on the lower left, some on the lower right of the phone and some on the lower middle… but mostly on the lower end because regulations said the reciever needs to be away from the user’s head when making a call…
before comparing phones, try to know the position of the antenna first, because holding phones with different antenna positions, using the same hand has different effects on the signal…
try making a more controlled experiment, however, a design flaw is still a design flaw. no matter how you look at it.
June 28th, 2010 at 6:56 pm
I’ve had some great Nokia phones and I’m a big fan of the iPhone; I have no tribal obligation to call either a “piece of crap.” Both companies make some great stuff. This is an entertaining bit of cheeky fluff (fluffy cheek?) from Nokia, well-deserved after Steve Jobs’ “don’t hold it that way” comment.
Cheers, Nokia.
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June 28th, 2010 at 7:00 pm
Tell me, what’s the best way to hold/grip a nokia when you wish to throw it against the wall because you’re sick of using a dated, ugly, barely usable phone?
Thanks in advance,
Happy iPhone user since ‘07
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Intosh Reply:
June 28th, 2010 at 9:03 pm
More usable than an iPhone 4 because they all can make phone calls.
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June 28th, 2010 at 7:01 pm
This is great. Tell me how many companies would dare dictate how you should hold a phone or define the accessories you would need to make it work (i.e. high dielectric constant EM bumper guards, Tin Foil head covering etc.). This is like saying that you have to use your left hand, laterally rotated, and grasp the refrigerator handle, opening it at less than 20 degrees per second but more than 10, and only odd numbered odd days during a full moon, or the refrigerator won’t work.
However since it is the magnanimous Steve Jobs has deigned that the sheepeple are not using holding the phone right, no one is allowed to make fun of the situation. Boy you guys have thin skin.
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Steve Knob Reply:
June 28th, 2010 at 7:33 pm
This comment just cracked me up.
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June 28th, 2010 at 7:01 pm
“Of course, feel free to ignore all of the above because realistically, you’re free to hold your Nokia device any way you like. And you won’t suffer any signal loss. Cool, huh?”
Ummm … yeah, except that I’ve SEEN first hand reception loss on a Nokia phone (and a Blackberry) equal to on an iPhone 4 in the same situation, based on how the phone was held in hand. For what it’s worth, the Nokia was about on par with the iPhone for keeping a call when holding it in the “worst” position, but the Blackberry dropped the call like a hot potato.
It’s all about the baseline strength of the signal in the area, and how iPhone 4 reports signal degradation relative to Nokia and Blackberry (and iPhone 3GS). “Number of bars” is not a universal standard, and “two bars” is not half the signal strength of four.
If Nokia thinks they are somehow immune to the laws of radio transmission then they are in far worse shape than I’d ever thought.
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Joshua Reply:
June 29th, 2010 at 2:47 am
“For what it’s worth, the Nokia was about on par with the iPhone for keeping a call when holding it in the “worst” position” By your definition, the worst possible position to hold an iPhone 4 is the most comfortable position to hold any phone? Just sayin.
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June 28th, 2010 at 7:05 pm
Because Nokia has so much room to talk… http://sidetalkin.com/
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June 28th, 2010 at 7:07 pm
Ok i think we can safely say Apple is all style over substance and Nokia is the other way round and thats without getting into the questionable ethics Apple has towards those who manufacture their devises. So why cant some one knock on the door at Nokia and ask the simple question “Why cant you get the Android OS (by far better than Apple OS) and put it in the stunning hardware that we know Nokia makes?” I think this simple solution would pull Nokia back into the race and i would even go as far as to say, it would probably be one of the best, most sought after and of course one of the most reliable handsets on the market!!
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Joshua Reply:
June 29th, 2010 at 2:50 am
They wont do that because Symbian is more open source than Android. Plus, Nokia is hoping that after the new Symbian takes off other phone makers will pick it up as well which gives even more incentive to programmers to make “apps” using QT. I could only see them doing something as desperate as using an operating system not of their own making.. Actually, I can’t see them doing that and I really hope they don’t go anywhere near trying that.
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kevwright Reply:
June 29th, 2010 at 11:29 am
@Sunny507
No, I don’t think we can all agree that. iPhone USED to be style over substance, but not since 3GS, and definitely not with iP4
But, you carry on thinking like that, you are in good company, it is why Nokia is getting hammered in the top end market right now.
Kev
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June 28th, 2010 at 7:08 pm
Why are you still using that Symbian crap? Maemo is nice, but still imature, why don’t you try Android? Nokia’s hardware + Android OS and Steve Jobs can stick his icrap up his ass!
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prasooncc Reply:
June 29th, 2010 at 9:02 am
symbian isnt crap..even now it has enough features to compete with iOS and android
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June 28th, 2010 at 7:09 pm
Not to spoil this neat joke above, but my E90 does lose signal and fall back to 2G when held opened in two hands.
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June 28th, 2010 at 7:10 pm
hahahahahaha lmao, very smart, take that apple !
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June 28th, 2010 at 7:12 pm
Let’s just add another Nokia (E51) having signal issue along with the iPhone 4…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lP_A2aVJhVE
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RJ Reply:
June 28th, 2010 at 10:56 pm
My Nokia does lose signal when I cup the antenna, but at least there are still bars left and no dropped calls even if I hold it that way… I guess the right thing is to use quality hardware and materials that don’t interfere with signal…
That’s why it’s called a phone, because it’s used for communication, that’s Nokia’s slogan “Connecting People”
and they still do until now…
and about OS, there is already an upcoming Symbian^4 OS, that reportedly focuses on UI, also I hope it will be seamless and not buggy, I still have high hopes for nokia…
And Nokia, if you really want a high end smartphone, don’t hesitate to use the best hardware and design, even if it comes out almost as expensive as an iphone, people will still but it, as long as it’s good and marketed properly…
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June 28th, 2010 at 7:20 pm
Lovely blog entry
Hoping to see more of this kind of stuff always when possible..
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June 28th, 2010 at 7:30 pm
There is no such thing as Apple or Nokia specific radio waves. It’s all physics. Every device will have interference. Look at the videos and objective tests. The rest is just opinion and distortion.
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June 28th, 2010 at 7:31 pm
Bwahahahaha……….I love this article, especially the comments, they crack me up. Made my day really.
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June 28th, 2010 at 7:45 pm
After bought of Nokia N97 I have noticed that even phone calls is too hard thing to do for this phone… Think about SMS and emails, oops phone crashed.
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June 28th, 2010 at 8:07 pm
Are those girls “cheering” the French soccer team at the World cup?
Didn’t the French team have major issues all over the place?
Too bad I’m not there to console beautiful, fair, young Mademoiselle!
ACTUALLY…
Wasn’t that girl the model prototype of the blow up doll that “Bud” had under his bed in the tv series “Married with Children”?
Let us see, beautiful, far stretched arms, pouty lips, oval open mouth, two big’uns… Why yes, I think she was! (now some of you don’t get your panties in a bunch! This was a LOL moment. Sorry if your sense of humor is lacking.)
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Joshua Reply:
June 29th, 2010 at 2:51 am
This one looks about right. http://inapcache.boston.com/universal/site_graphics/blogs/bigpicture/worldcup_06_25/w18_24042095.jpg
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June 28th, 2010 at 8:12 pm
This “article” from Nokia would be amusing by itself, but it isn’t even true.
http://funsizebytes.com/post/745721120/instructions-from-my-nokia-2320-which-boil-down-to
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=amPG52DVQuk&hd=1
I’m sure there are a lot more Nokia’s with reception problems.
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June 28th, 2010 at 8:34 pm
You scandinavian losers with your short memory problem, didn’t you include that in your manual for Nokia 2320???
http://funsizebytes.com/post/745721120/instructions-from-my-nokia-2320-which-boil-down-to
or haven’t you seen your phones on youtube???
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=amPG52DVQuk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Zsuxbd0L0g
Maybe if you start bringing your phones to the US market (not just the current disposable junk) and stop ignoring us for the benefit of Europe and Asia, you actually can make some money, maybe people in USA will learn that Nokia makes cell phones not only tires!
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Niklas O Reply:
July 1st, 2010 at 9:17 am
Finland is not part of Scandinavia…
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scandinavia
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June 28th, 2010 at 8:47 pm
Nokia does not end to amaze me:
Nokia Instruction Manual Warns Of Antenna Issues If Phone Is Held Wrong
http://www.businessinsider.com/nokias-instruction-manual-2010-6?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+typepad%2Falleyinsider%2Fsilicon_alley_insider+%28Silicon+Alley+Insider%29#ixzz0sB7mfGfh
As opposed to taking cheap shots, Nokia’s employees better spend the time working on something that consumers will care about -for a change-.
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June 28th, 2010 at 9:03 pm
I think you forgot this one:
http://www.bruceongames.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/02/ngage-taco.jpg
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Caesar Wong Reply:
July 2nd, 2010 at 1:26 am
Yeah… I was gonna say, have we already forgotten about “side talkin’”? It’s almost a case of the pot calling the kettle black here…
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June 28th, 2010 at 9:03 pm
Does it matter how you hold your phone if what you’re holding is just utter crap, buggy, overpriced, unable to make proper calls (although with undisturbed signal level), crashes, freezes, …
You are pathetic, guys. Make proper phones again instead of poking fun. Nokia’s situation is FAR too serious. After 10 years with Nokia through (too) many phones, I’m waiting for my Android to arrive. Reception will be the last thing I care. Finally, I’ll have a proper smartphone with state-of-the-art software and a hardware that Nokia MIGHT be having some time next year, if at all.
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Anonymous Reply:
June 29th, 2010 at 6:28 pm
Hey Dirk. I’ve experienced the problem with my iPhone. Signal keeps disappearing, rendering my precious unable to make proper calls! tons of Apps crashed (usually the free ones with paid alternatives – isn’t that suspicious?)!! wifi/3g not detected despite the icon stating full strength!! oh and my iphone freezes too! and it gets very hot! and the screen has become unresponsible around the edges. and battery drains awfully fast! and then there’s the fact that its also overpriced (at least where i am).
Can you fix all that for me?
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June 28th, 2010 at 9:06 pm
I own a Nokia 6710 Navigator and I can’t zoom the maps (I almost can’t use them, to be true), I hardly can write an sms and sometimes I can’t even make a phone call, because the keyboard does’nt work.
And that is a common problem.
Can you help me?!?
Or should I pass to the I-phone?
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20legend Reply:
June 28th, 2010 at 9:59 pm
How is your ineptitude anything to do with Nokia?
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June 28th, 2010 at 9:15 pm
nokia sidetalk????? u must be ashamed and stop this ridiculous thread/note
http://darky.net/images/retardedPhones/ngage-sidetalk.jpg
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June 28th, 2010 at 9:15 pm
Yes, Nokia phones sucks next to the iPhone 4, but keeping them can be arbitrarily
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June 28th, 2010 at 9:36 pm
To all those who have claimed that Apple is leading the smartphone race: of the last 55 million smartphones sold only 8 million were iphones. 21.5 million of them were Nokias.
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V8Silverfox Reply:
June 28th, 2010 at 11:35 pm
… but the Nokia phone weren’t smart.
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Bryn Roberts Reply:
June 28th, 2010 at 11:58 pm
All 8 million were one model. Have you seen the massive range of Nokias. Plus Apple, since they charge so much, must have massive revenue due to this.
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kalin Reply:
July 3rd, 2010 at 12:03 am
Apple charge so much!!????
Where are you from Mars? in the US iPhone 4 is $200-$300 depending on the storage and how much is Nokia charging for their crap???
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June 28th, 2010 at 9:53 pm
I hold my Nokia in a way that’s consistent with the manual…
http://nds1.nokia.com/files/support/nam/phones/guides/Nokia_N900_UG_en-US_es-LAM_NAM.pdf
You’ll see on page 19 it clearly shows that my N900 has various antennas placed on three sides and that holding it in a way that makes contact with these areas will degrade call quality and shorten battery life. To avoid this, I’ve had the one edge that doesn’t contain antennas permanently glued to my hand as it was the only way I could think of to “hold” my Nokia without touching any of those three sides.
Come to think of it, it’s odd that you’d put this advice in your manual and yet you seem to be making fun of Apple for having the same concerns about signal attenuation. Strange…
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June 28th, 2010 at 10:02 pm
Haha, awesome. Good job, Nokia.
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June 28th, 2010 at 10:08 pm
The cheapest Nokia Phone ( 1202 ) supports SMS Delivery report .but iphone not.
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V8Silverfox Reply:
June 28th, 2010 at 11:34 pm
… and the rest of world gives a toss about an SMS delivery report?
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prasooncc Reply:
June 29th, 2010 at 8:59 am
sour grapes..who wants it
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kevwright Reply:
June 29th, 2010 at 11:32 am
OK, you win. The most irrelevant comment in this thread, and you had better believe that is a BIG win in this thread.
Kev
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June 28th, 2010 at 10:08 pm
Nokia is a dying company, and the fact that this is on your official blog is nothing but confirmation. Good luck guys, you need it.
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Aguy Reply:
June 29th, 2010 at 5:42 am
A dying company? You really are stupid. Worldwide, no company sells even a quarter of the phones Nokia sells, moron.
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Nokon Reply:
June 29th, 2010 at 11:20 am
Pretty much dead in the high end category hence they want to attack emerging economies but even there people’s eyes are on Android and Apple. Mid and low range is where Nokia is making money but even there companies like Samsung, Lg, Sony Ericsson are constantly attacking.
Share holders are very concerned with Nokia’s failure to produce a phone that can compete confidently with phones like the iphone. Yes Nokia’s fourth coming phones look good problem is they’ll probably only attract enthusiasts, the iphone may not be the perfect phone but it certainly is a beautifully crafted piece of kit hence average users are more attracted to it, and in this day and age it’s all about shipping units. 1.7 million phones sold in 3 days “Iphone 4″ it took Nokia N97 from 06/09 to 12/09 to sell 500 000 units no wonder shareholders are kicking up a lot of fuss.
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June 28th, 2010 at 10:20 pm
I don’t hold a Nokia. I hold an iPhone 4. And I don’t have that signal issue. It works just fine, thanks.
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June 28th, 2010 at 10:23 pm
Nokia = Epic FAIL!
Seems like your crappy plastic phones just suffer from the very same issue:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=amPG52DVQuk
But hey, Nokia can now sue Apple for copying their feature
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June 28th, 2010 at 10:26 pm
I guess this was supposed to be funny, but instead I got an impression someone’s having some self-esteem problems.
I remember how OPK admited Apple is making himself paranoid. Maybe it’s time to move ahead from that.
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John Reply:
June 29th, 2010 at 6:00 am
This article is an official Nokia statament so it is good to all Nokia customers.
Now when you have any connection problems with Nokia phones you can
a. replace to your phone to a new one (it is definitely a warranty issue, Nokia has officially claimed that their phones has no connection problems)
b. you have a good basis for legal issue.
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June 28th, 2010 at 10:36 pm
Hey Nokia,
How should I hold my N-cage?
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June 28th, 2010 at 10:36 pm
My takeaway from this piece:
Gee, look at all the desperate, insecure Nokia fanbois.
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June 28th, 2010 at 10:46 pm
My favourite way to hold a Nokia phone: the finger-&-thumb method. I hold the phone underneath my hand using my thumb and index finger, before I drop it into the trash like the piece of junk it is. >:D
(No, I’m not a Apple fanboy, Google fanboy, etc. I just think that if Nokia can dish it out, they should expect to get some in return.)
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June 28th, 2010 at 10:56 pm
I love how Nokia has the time for their communications department to write a whole blog post about this… all while Apple is talking about how they sold 1.7 million phones in 3 days.
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June 28th, 2010 at 11:05 pm
My Nokia does lose signal when I cup the antenna, but at least there are still bars left and no dropped calls even if I hold it that way… I guess the right thing is to use quality hardware and materials that don’t interfere with signal…
That’s why it’s called a phone, because it’s used for communication, that’s Nokia’s slogan “Connecting People”
and they still do until now…
and about OS, there is already an upcoming Symbian^4 OS, that reportedly focuses on UI, also I hope it will be seamless and not buggy, I still have high hopes for nokia…
And Nokia, if you really want a high end smartphone, don’t hesitate to use the best hardware and design, even if it comes out almost as expensive as an iphone, people will still buy it, as long as it’s good and marketed properly…
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June 28th, 2010 at 11:06 pm
Remember that little piece of shit you sold months ago, yes the one you called “N97″, the only use i could find to that N97 was …. well i can’t remember, i tried to make a call … nothing, tried to receive a call …. nothing, … tried to browse, play, USE THE FU$#@$$ PHONE ….. and nothing.
The only thing i can say is that i won’t buy NEVER AGAIN IN MY LIFE a phone from nokia (or anything from Nokia).
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June 28th, 2010 at 11:21 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=amPG52DVQuk
Nokia fail.
Your phones suck anyway, come back when you have sold 1.7 million units as quickly as Apple.
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Samuel Reply:
June 29th, 2010 at 12:54 pm
“…come back when you have sold 1.7 million units as quickly as Apple.”
If I’m not too wrong, the 1.7 million units from Apple were sold in 3 days… which makes it only 566 666,667 units per day…
Nokia has sold over 1.5 million units per day since 2006 or 2008 or something?
And back on 2004 it sold over 500 000 units per day, so the 1.7 million units from Nokia were sold in 3 days atleast 5 years ago?
That’s quite many sucky phones more per day than Apple…
Maybe you should actually know some things before you open your mouth?
Come back when your Apple sells 1.5 million units per day instead of 566 667 pieces?
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June 28th, 2010 at 11:32 pm
I’ll make a funny too: Maemo.
Hahahahahaha.
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June 28th, 2010 at 11:42 pm
All the people saying you cannot fix an antenna with a software update need to step back and think instead of just repeating what all the other sheep say. When people that KNOW how certain electronics function read these remarks it makes you look ignorant. Put it this way, drivers control the hardware in a PC. Hardware manufacturers release driver updates all the time to change how it functions. A crappy driver is not a “hardware” issue. Same goes with devices that have upgradeable firmware. Go pull the plug on a device you are updating the firmware on….oops bricked. Hardware issue….no. On to the iPhone issue, a baseband update will most likely fix the issue as it has the ability to tell the phone to switch frequency bands which in turn has an effect on the SNR that the phone will see. And no, I am not talking about masking a hardware issue with software.
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June 28th, 2010 at 11:45 pm
oh really nokia? not clever picking on other companies….
watch this…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tjoDOlyXljw
so?
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June 28th, 2010 at 11:55 pm
Nokia, can it get signal under water, because thats where I want to hold this piece of crap. Oops.
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Anonymous Reply:
July 5th, 2010 at 12:37 pm
Does your iP4 work under water? If you are a diver and need to make calls while diving, you should try the Nokia 5500, or the Nokia 3720, or Nokia 5210… well you get the point
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June 29th, 2010 at 12:28 am
Honestly, this could have been much funnier.
Also I am not sure Nokia should be making fun of the iPhone right now… 1.7M iPhone 4 sold in a week… still funny?
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June 29th, 2010 at 12:35 am
Next time you can make an article about how to hold an Nokia phone to make a video call.
But please, use some old terminal like the 6280, lol
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June 29th, 2010 at 12:38 am
i guess you can hold it any way but this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m1iTBzshuE8&feature=player_embedded
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June 29th, 2010 at 12:40 am
will this methods work if you are left handed?
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June 29th, 2010 at 12:40 am
Or this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gi1gHDa7-X0&feature=player_embedded
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June 29th, 2010 at 12:40 am
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=amPG52DVQuk
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June 29th, 2010 at 12:53 am
If you read this far down – get a life …
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BS Reply:
July 5th, 2010 at 4:35 pm
Right Gary, where can we join you
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June 29th, 2010 at 12:54 am
Amusing
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=amPG52DVQuk
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June 29th, 2010 at 12:55 am
piece of crap is still piece of crap, no matter how you hold it.
couple years ago switched away from nokia and will never look back!
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June 29th, 2010 at 1:14 am
Signal degradation happens with my E71-1’s cellular radio ever since I bought it in January 2009 (here in Manila, Philippines), though the loss of signal varies depending on how strong the signal is to begin with. It just becomes a big deal when I’m in an area where the signal strength is a bit erratic (like the first floor of my house).
Since then I’ve already avoided squeezing it in a cup-like grip and just grab the phone with fingers on three corners (a slight variation of the 4-edge grip). It feels a bit problematic as there’s that fear of dropping the phone but the signal degradation issue is avoided.
I’ll still prefer my E-series phone over an iPhone though (built like a tank, can share my internet connection via Joikuspot Premium, phone battery life is still insane even beyond 1 year of heavy usage of 3G,wifi and GPS). I do have some gripes (particularly the numerous menus – they should’ve stuck with the Palm formula of everything accessible within 3 clicks, the slow firmware ever since I upgraded to the latest, then that contacts issue) but overall I’m a satisfied camper.
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June 29th, 2010 at 1:57 am
What do you recommend for the fact that all Nokia phones are inferior to the iPhone?
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June 29th, 2010 at 2:21 am
embarrassing for little Finland…
Nokia R.I.P.
(’got my wife a Xmas gift of Nokia-brand boot-warmer inserts to celebrate her iPhone 3GS and remind us of Nokia finding her true calling)
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June 29th, 2010 at 2:42 am
looks like nokia phones are suffering from the same issues as the iPhone 4 when held in the “the cup” position.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=amPG52DVQuk
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June 29th, 2010 at 2:49 am
At least you could clean the screen before taking pics on that filthy thing…
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Aguilera Reply:
June 30th, 2010 at 6:33 am
Totally agree!!!
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June 29th, 2010 at 4:04 am
“How do you hold your Nokia?” – I don’t, haven’t owned one since early 2000’s. Time to revamp that old OS … just like Microsoft Mobile … er Windows Mobile 7.
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June 29th, 2010 at 5:07 am
I’m holding my Nokia at eBay listings, hopefully getting some money back. That is when I’m not sidetalking ofcourse.
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June 29th, 2010 at 5:21 am
For the apple’s fan boys ill answer why I like more Nokia than apples phone (even when iPhone its a great phone!) whit this!
http://theoatmeal.com/comics/apple
thats how apples works!
Ill keep my 5800 XM that already has video call (something that nokia has from aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaalong way ago! Don’t get why apple says that have improve on it -.-!) and some many stuff that works for me! Don’t need to spend aaaalot of money in some product that will later need somo other stuff to works “fine”… thats just my opinion!
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Anonymous Reply:
June 29th, 2010 at 11:37 am
Wee, that is a long winded way of admitting you simply can not afford an iPhone.
Ah well, not to worry, one day maybe.
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June 29th, 2010 at 6:02 am
Nokia, can you fix this problem? Massacre the people who decide on the RAM….
http://www.thegadgetfreak.net/2010/06/why-is-e72-annoying-and-why-e71-still.html
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June 29th, 2010 at 6:23 am
You guys at Nokia are desperate!
“How do you hold your Nokia?” What tha fu*k! This smells desperation as soon i read the title.
Stop laming around you guys had the worldmarket in your hands and now you are going to loose it.
Well why? You produce junk phones that nobody wants.
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June 29th, 2010 at 6:25 am
I haven’t paid money for a Nokia product in six years… But I can’t duplicate the iPhone 4 reception problem with either of our new iPhones. (I believe it exists and is a serious problem, just that it is not impacting *our* iPhones).
But this blog post really kind of is just sour grapes. Nokia would love 1.7 million smartphone sales in three days…
However – Nokia did sell more than 200 million N 1100s. So they are no stranger to success.
I have No problems with Nokia. They apparently have problems with Apple though…
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June 29th, 2010 at 6:57 am
mmm,
I’m a hard phone users, and I also had nokia phone in the past. Very good. The bad side is that they don’t last a whole year: they brake up!
Can we speak about my E65 that say “no sim” (but there inside) or my 5000 who doesn’t have a “cancel” button and it switch on automatically?
Everyone has -pros and -cons…otherwise how can Service get money?
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June 29th, 2010 at 7:06 am
Totally in agreement with Mr. Farhan’s letter. My younger bro has N97 and believe me he is still regretting the day he decided to go for n97, no doubt the phone has everything one could think of but not enough power to run those things, a complete failure for nokia.
Nokia offers everything in a phone but lacks resources to run those smoothly. Apple doesn’t offer much but wtever it does its the best. thats why ppl are so much satisfied with their apple devices, atleast those who use it. No ram issues, no processor issues…..
Nokia wake up before its too late. Listen to your customers while they last.
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June 29th, 2010 at 7:08 am
But..have you forgot this?
http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2008/08/04/nokia-e71-2-reception-issues-mmm/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gi1gHDa7-X0
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June 29th, 2010 at 7:39 am
People who live in glass houses shouldn’t throw stones, Nokia.
How dumb can you get?
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June 29th, 2010 at 7:51 am
haha…well done Nokia, very cheeky but hey -hits the bulls eye!! ^_^
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June 29th, 2010 at 8:13 am
So this is what it takes for me to visit a nokia website. That you talk trash about iPhone. HAHA pathetic.
Compare on of your models to one of the iPhone models. Which one sells best?
I rest my case.
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June 29th, 2010 at 8:24 am
I’ve got a Nokia E71 and use the “The thumb and finger”.
It’s comfortable, even for 1 hour calls.
Never had any “lost signal effect”.
Won’t get the iPhone 4, even if I thought about it before it came out.
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June 29th, 2010 at 8:36 am
Can you hold a Nokia with your thumb over the ear-hole, and still make a call?
Can you take a picture with your finger over the lens?
Would you complain to Winchester that their gun is dangerous if it’s pointed the wrong way?
Do you hate that you can’t use a paddle held upside down.
Learning to hold things is part of learning to use them. Get over it.
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June 29th, 2010 at 8:58 am
Whichever phone manufacturer you prefer, you have to admit that Appple is lucky to have its fanbois. But has it just slapped them in the face? Think about it – Who’s complaining bitterly about this reception issue? Who actually has the product to complain about it at all, buying it in the first week without ever seeing it or waiting for reviews. Who had this trust that that a new Apple product would be nothing short of excellent?
But the product went to the market with something they find unacceptable, which Apple blandly tells them is not really an issue.
Will they be queuing up again for the next iProduct?
Probably
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kevwright Reply:
June 29th, 2010 at 11:42 am
I am one of those.
1. I have 14 days to return any Apple product without loss.
2. If I did not want to keep my iPhone 4 I could make around £300 profit on eBay today.
3. If there turns out to be a problem, Apple will fix it, and it won’t take several goes like Nokia a la N97 firmware.
4. Oh, my iPhone 4 is WAY better at signal than old 3GS and Nexus One
Cheers
Kev
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June 29th, 2010 at 9:10 am
Ok, some here said that Nokia is taking a stab at Apple for an iPhone issue.
The reality is Apple downplayed a hardware issue saying “This is a fact of life for every wireless phone”.
Nokia have an article here saying it’s not an issue and have never been an issue for Nokia phones.
So if Apple don’t wants to get mocked up, it’s better for them to not make a clown of themselves for a starter.
Downplaying their own hardware design problems by attacking an entire market – to say it’s a problem of every phone out there it’s to attack the entire market from my point of view – won’t make other manufacturers to shut the mounths and eat it up.
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kevwright Reply:
June 29th, 2010 at 11:46 am
Nick.
It IS a fact of life for every cell phone. Its Physics, not marketing.
Nokia are badly wrong, and are looking silly. There are plenty of real examples of Nokia phones suffering from this.
Regardless of this, I just don’t understand why Nokia would want to make an enemy of Apple at this time. I really don’t.
Kev
Kev
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Nick Reply:
July 2nd, 2010 at 9:44 am
Let’s talk about physics Kev.
The problem here is a fault on issulation on both the UMTS/GSM and Bluetooth/Wifi/GPS antennas.
Those 2 anntenas wrap the entire phone around and almost touch and the bottom left of the phone.
So the problem is when you touch in that very place – as you are condutive – you decouple both anttenas.
It’s not the normal attenuation you get when griping hard your phone. It’s a decoupling caused for improper insulation.
So here Apple decided to put design – pretty stainless steel anttena looks really cool around the phone – over proper engineering, and then downplayed this as if it where the normal attenuation you get on the signal when you put anything covering the anttena.
And trust me, they did a great job. You really think that’s attenuation and it’s normal in all phones, while it’s decoupling caused by imporper issulation. You even think I’m looking silly.
So what Apple did here is to put marketing over engineering and then downplay the problem as if it where another unrelated issue that – off course – affects every anttena out there – not just phone anntenas.
Hope you get now why Nokia did not liked what Apple said, and debunked it.
Best regards.
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June 29th, 2010 at 9:24 am
Antenna (plural antennae (biology) or antennas (radio))
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June 29th, 2010 at 9:24 am
Absolutely true but absolutely pointless when operating system freezes such as it happened regularly on my E71.
Now I did a firmware upgrade and, because it is a Three branded one, I needed to find information on how to apply the latest update other than on any Nokia-owned pointless forum or site.
Now it doesn’t freezes completely as did before but sometimes and completely random it waits seconds in order to do simple tasks.
Oh, and you’re right! It doesn’t matter how I handle it, it freezes anyway.
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June 29th, 2010 at 10:10 am
The real question is not how do you hold your Nokia? But why are you holding a Nokia in the first place?
Steve
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June 29th, 2010 at 10:12 am
If Chuck Norris holds a phone, the signal strength increases!
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Magjohn Reply:
June 29th, 2010 at 12:57 pm
Gold Jan.
Pure gold.
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June 29th, 2010 at 10:13 am
lolz…….. very funny……………
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June 29th, 2010 at 10:31 am
None of the four grips shown here causes problems with my E71-1. They don’t really cover the bottom part completely.
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June 29th, 2010 at 10:43 am
Strange ?!?
If I read this: http://funsizebytes.com/post/745721120/instructions-from-my-nokia-2320-which-boil-down-to
it’s al little bit strange, Nokia suggestest to hold a mobile this way.
But take a look at this little video and you will understood:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=amPG52DVQuk&feature=player_embedded
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June 29th, 2010 at 11:19 am
I love Nokia Phones!
I am having E72 and its the best phone i have ever owned, BETTER then the Blackberry
Thanks for the awesome post.
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June 29th, 2010 at 11:46 am
This a cheap way to get attention. Please use your effort and talent to make phone which is as good or better than apple’s phone. Sad to see nokia sinking this low – you used to make the best phones, but now you seem bitter. Accept the challenge and make a phone (including the ecosystem) which beats apple at their own game. That would be cool – this blog post is embarrassing for all nokia users (and fan boys).
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CG Reply:
June 29th, 2010 at 5:58 pm
That is why I started to hate Apple. They use exactly the same way of telling everyone how sucky the competitors’ products are. So now that Nokia is going offensive as well, I’m actually pretty satisfied that Apple is getting a taste of their own bitter medicine by the world’s largest manufacturer of mobile phones. I’ve been following Apple’s strategy for a decade now.
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June 29th, 2010 at 12:05 pm
http://nds2.nokia.com/files/support/nam/phones/guides/6126_US_en.PDF
just look at page 16 – i cant hold it like i want
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June 29th, 2010 at 12:05 pm
Nokia sucks anyway…
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June 29th, 2010 at 12:11 pm
This blog has found the perfect solution to iPhone4 reception issue – may be a little crazy, but just think how cool it would look:
http://weftandwarp.wordpress.com/
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June 29th, 2010 at 12:12 pm
for what its worth I cannot reproduce the loosing of reception with my e71. I have tried it as shown on the youtube many times but still no effect. Maybe there is some difference with the phones or firmware so that with some E71 it is actually a problem. Question is how common problem it is with e71 phones: it has not at least make the headlines as the IPhone problems.
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June 29th, 2010 at 12:31 pm
Nokia engineers: Apple is hiring.
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June 29th, 2010 at 12:54 pm
my i-phone sucks!!!
it wont work properly.
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Bruno Reply:
June 29th, 2010 at 1:24 pm
Discard it and buy a Nokia
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June 29th, 2010 at 1:15 pm
Wow, I gave up after the 20th comment…
The problem in this discussion is that no-one seems to be smart enough to see that there is no discussion.
@Nokia: you have made some great phones. Against the other phones, yours felt the most user-friendly which resulted in a very big marketshare. Alas, you don’t have any significant marketshare in smartphones, because other OSes are more intuitive to use. Oh, and their looks are better too.
@Apple: iPhone means a big hit for you. It’s true that I fell in love with the user-friendliness of the iOS. I don’t own an iPhone 4 and if I had I would certainly give back the device for a new one until I have one that doesn’t have this signal-loss issue. Loss of signal is absolutely unacceptable.
I owned a Nokia 3310 and now have an original iPhone (2G). Didn’t have any issues with both those devices.
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Peter Reply:
June 29th, 2010 at 3:34 pm
Nokia don’t have any significant share in smartphones? Good one.
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June 29th, 2010 at 1:24 pm
The iPhone is over rated.
That is a fact and not an opinion.
1.7million people might have bought the iPhone 4 within 3days, but does it make it good?
It is like Toyota having to recall most models because of the accelerator problem.
The phone was initially designed to make calls. Does a Nokia do that? Yes. Can you call with an iPhone 4 without any cases, handsfree? No.
That should say something.
iPhone is overrated and it is not good enough from Apple. Blame the designer. ‘Intergerated Antenna’ <- That failed
Apple is winning the customers by designing the past.
-Multitasking (was there long before)
-5mp Camera (its all becoming 8mp & 12mp)
-1GHz processor (CPU makers are looking at dual core processors)
People might buy the apple because it is apple. But when you look at it the iPhone 4 will be outdated very soon.
The iPhone is an overpriced piece of rubbish made by un-fairly treated workers in China.
You people who are in favour of the iPhone are sheeps. You follow the flock. Its about creating unique features. You are simply killing the rights of the poor workers in Chine (foxconn).
Apple has failed.
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June 29th, 2010 at 1:29 pm
I wish I knew a right way to hold my Nokia. I use an E52 and the voice quality is horrible.
Often when I’m on a call, the other person suddenly says he can’t hear me, then I have to adjust the way I hold it and hopefully it will get better. I have tried it myself, being on the other side of the line and it sounds terrible. The voice on the E52 loses all the low notes, and I can only hear the high notes as gibberish.
Terrible quality. Nokia used to be so much better.
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CG Reply:
June 29th, 2010 at 5:51 pm
Maybe that depends on where you live. And, to be honest, your E52 isn’t even nearly Nokia’s top-range model, and therefore, I can forgive Nokia for not always performing perfectly in this regard. Unlike Nokia, however, Apple is having a lot of problems with ONE device, while Nokia performs well with almost all devices (remember: in terms of communication). That says something about the two: which is the company that manages to perform under pressure? Nokia is, after all, one of the pioneers of the worldwide GSM-network.
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June 29th, 2010 at 1:31 pm
I like this post, its all just a bit of fun.
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June 29th, 2010 at 1:57 pm
I mostly use the first one…great hold indeed
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June 29th, 2010 at 2:19 pm
Hilarious! How your blog engine could handle so heavy load of traffic?
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June 29th, 2010 at 2:20 pm
All types of fanboys are irritating, be it Apple or Nokia fanboys; they usally don’t have the arguments required and are blinded by their favourite brand for all weird reasons (identity crisis?)
Why I use Nokia? It was reasonably priced for the stuff i needed (gps + maps, calling and simple browsing). It could as well have been a low end Android platform.
Why I don’t want an iPhone? Because I don’t like apple fanboys and don’t want to be associated with that group. But seriousy, mainly because how they treat their customers with DRM and closed platform, the price, because of their DRM policies and end user terms. I never liked the most popular brands because lets face it, the majority of people on this planet are not too bright. So it’s natural that the most popular device isn’t the best one.
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June 29th, 2010 at 2:28 pm
What a retarded pun, honestly. Now I can see why Nokia’s recent products (such as n97 or the non-flagship “flagship” n8 they were forced to announce at 1/2 of projected price because of bad publicity) are such a cheap crap.
They aint got time to work. Too busy writing lame jokes about competitors.
To think of it, I am an Iphone hater, and even then I find this to be exceptionally bad PR. Somewhy Steve Jobs gave no speech about how his phones are not hanging up every day back when Nokia was pushing n97 to the market. The difference? People buy Iphone, are happy, and buy the next model. People who bought n97 likely won’t ever buy a single other Nokia product ever.
Farewell, Nokla, go home, go China.
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June 29th, 2010 at 2:29 pm
I’ve used Nokia phone since 2004 when I was @ high school first year. Never use another brand, because I love Nokia especially Symbian.
Two thing that funny from that fact:
1. 6 years ago when other people use 3312, I’ve using 7650 (first symbian).Now when other people use E series and other hi-end Nokia phone, I’m using 3315.
2. I’ve NEVER care how I hold my Nokia.
Hahahaha, LOL
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June 29th, 2010 at 3:12 pm
I like eating apples while talking on my mobile phone.
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June 29th, 2010 at 3:26 pm
OK! IPhone’s having issues with the antenna, it may be a hardware problem and I don’t like the corporation. But Nokia is having issues with Symbian for years, seems to be a software problem and it is still slow and freezing. Can’t Nokia find a solution???
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June 29th, 2010 at 3:28 pm
You know the first thing I do when I get a new phone???
After I open the box, I make a call… and so far Nokia has never failed me in that aspect…
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June 29th, 2010 at 3:41 pm
Hahaha Nokia takes a bite of apple :p
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June 29th, 2010 at 3:45 pm
To celebrate the overload of comment on this thread, I will give you all a poem. I hope despite the differences in our preference, no catastrophe in apple-nokia user relationship.
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My Cell Phone
A very intimate personal item
I touch it every day
I hug it every day
I cry if it’s lost
Some said it’s a tools
Some said it’s reflect us
It’s define who we were
It’s with me more than my half
Finding the right one is a task
Some like the beauty fragile model
Some like basic cheap to maintain
Some like old mature stable
The beauty fragile model is flashy
Mostly used to show off
Hot! Unreliable! Ungrateful
Special way to hold necessary
The basic cheap is a real hero
No one gives a praise
But it’s the one helping the poor
I just hope nokia won’t stop making it
For me,
I wanna the old mature stable
Some said it’s old and bad
But I find it mature and reliable
Not flashy but elegant
Having a symbian phone by nokia
just like having a good helper
Helping me throughout the day
Can juggle all task easily
Why should I lust for fragile beauty.
Peace
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June 29th, 2010 at 3:49 pm
Nokia is dying! please focus on your product, not but the shortcoming of iphone4. Nokia CEO and its EB are bitch!!!!!!
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June 29th, 2010 at 3:57 pm
I had the exact same issue with my Nokia 5800!
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June 29th, 2010 at 4:03 pm
Remember that little piece of shit you sold months ago, yes the one you called “N97″, the only use i could find to that N97 was …. well i can’t remember, i tried to make a call … nothing, tried to receive a call …. nothing, … tried to browse, play, USE THE FU$#@$$ PHONE ….. and nothing.
The only thing i can say is that i won’t buy NEVER AGAIN IN MY LIFE a phone from nokia (or anything from Nokia).
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June 29th, 2010 at 4:03 pm
holy crap, you apple fanboys are some of the most butthurt whiny beeches ever. take a joke and be able to laugh at yourselves for once.
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June 29th, 2010 at 4:29 pm
You laugh about Iphone but….
I own a Nokia phone 1661. And as a left hand people, I can’t hold it normally unless the mic is covered by my hand.
I have to hold it like Steve Jobs holds his Iphone…
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CG Reply:
June 29th, 2010 at 5:45 pm
The difference is that the iPhone is many times more expensive than your Nokia 1661
For a top-of-the-range phone like iPhone, Apple should go and bury themselves for all the ridiculous issues with iPhone 4 (which, frankly, could easily have been spotted with a little beta testing like other manufacturers do).
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June 29th, 2010 at 4:43 pm
Ha-ha-ha! Cool post, guys!
Or when too much design is really too much
Eat another bitter pill, Steve
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June 29th, 2010 at 5:07 pm
During Apple is selling Phones made of glass, Nokia itself is sitting in the glass house^^ muhahah
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June 29th, 2010 at 5:13 pm
iPad wifi issue.
iphone 4 signal issue
iphone 4 screen discoloration
Hubris or greed? Or both?
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June 29th, 2010 at 5:57 pm
I own that exact phone they show in the pictures, and I can say it’s a piece of garbage… “c: drive is full, please delete some data” HOW???? WHERE DO I GO??? followed by every application crashing.
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June 29th, 2010 at 6:00 pm
How come the Nokia support site writes this way:
“When using the GPS receiver, ensure you do not cover the antenna on the left side of the phone with your hand.”
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June 29th, 2010 at 6:04 pm
How easily Nokia forgot their own signal issue by holding it upside down.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gi1gHDa7-X0
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June 29th, 2010 at 6:06 pm
Nokia sucks.
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June 29th, 2010 at 6:18 pm
I usually hold it like something in between a cup and a balance. The thumb is slighty loosely holding the phone and the middle finger is a bit low. And yes, signal is good!!.. lolz!!
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June 29th, 2010 at 6:37 pm
I cannot be bothered to read through the comments because everyone thinks this blog is their platform where they can have their war about different models or makes.
I am an iPhone guy but this article made me laugh, big time.
Thanks, Nokia, you’ve made my day.
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June 29th, 2010 at 6:49 pm
hehehehe
Look this!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=amPG52DVQuk&feature=player_embedded
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June 29th, 2010 at 7:04 pm
Mmm. We suspect it was actually the middle finger Nokia was actually thinking of there
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June 29th, 2010 at 7:35 pm
Excellent PR Nokia!
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June 29th, 2010 at 7:40 pm
In response to publication and say it is not well verdade.Eu live in Brazil and here is common when holding the phone to significant loss of signal, I have two Nokia N95 and 1661 the last a simple device where the two showed the decrease in signal when holding the device, but one of the good news although the decrease in the level of the signal that does not interfere with the quality of connection.
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June 29th, 2010 at 8:37 pm
The N97 is my last Nokia that i’ve buyed … and it’s also the worst one. Since few month i’ve a HTC Desire and i wouldn’t change back to Nokia. But the last sentence in your blog entry is nice
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June 29th, 2010 at 9:06 pm
why a post about how to hold a nokia phone?
after iOS, android and others there won’t be any nokia phones in the near future…
next time try harder
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June 29th, 2010 at 9:52 pm
Humorous Nokia – It would be even funnier if you sold 1.7 million handsets in under 3 days. You only wish you had Apples problems
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June 29th, 2010 at 10:05 pm
Nokia can’t GIVE AWAY 1.3 million ANYTHING, nonetheless even come close to Apple’s demand and ability to capture the market the way it has.
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June 29th, 2010 at 11:09 pm
Nokia marketing FAIL!
http://fscklog.typepad.com/.a/6a00d83451c7b569e20133f1dc7b47970b-pi
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=amPG52DVQuk&feature=player_embedded#
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B_RP7Fn1w8Q&feature=player_embedded
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June 29th, 2010 at 11:19 pm
Nice post
I hold my cell in cup style.
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June 29th, 2010 at 11:55 pm
hahaha xD apple perfect? lmao
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Causas Reply:
June 30th, 2010 at 12:02 am
i love my N900
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June 30th, 2010 at 12:02 am
This is ridiculous to see. That you actually trying to compete with Apple. I mean Nokia phones sucks. My friends and i call Nokia for Suckia. Nokia been making phones for many years and never succeeded, Apple just make one phone and baaam success, Nokia is a failing company and i know it must hurt that Apple totally fucks Nokia in the ass when they had no experience in making phones like Nokia have and also thats the thing, Apple is not a phone company and Nokia is, Apples iPhone is the best phone in the world, That’s it!
Bye Bye Suckia!
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June 30th, 2010 at 1:37 am
wtf this is stupid hahaha
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June 30th, 2010 at 2:20 am
nokiafanboy MAD. oO chill dudeee
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June 30th, 2010 at 6:05 am
N-Cage and stupid side-talking, ANYONE????
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June 30th, 2010 at 6:27 am
Niznayu as on the account of problems with hands, but since I a year ago purchased Nokia 5800 and through the floor of year in him factory marriage of screen emerged is a rainbow, I no longer will buy NokiaНизнаю as on the account of problems with hands, but since I a year ago purchased Nokia 5800 and through the floor of year in him factory marriage of screen emerged is a rainbow, I no longer will buy Nokia
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June 30th, 2010 at 7:22 am
What crap,
I have an E75 and must hold the phone by a “four edge grip” or something similar, as the “cup” method leads the people I phone to hear my voice with a severe echo.
Ohertwise, after one year of use the phone has started turning itself off at (it’s own) will, and giving strange error messages.
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June 30th, 2010 at 8:02 am
Nokia,
Would you mind focus on making phones I want to buy instead of this unserious game you are moving into. Legal cases, articles like this. You need to make good phones instead of pretending the competitors aren’t making good phones – they do ! You market share is falling and you need to act !
You fans may find the article fun, but it doesn’t give me a reason to buy one of your phones – actually makes me consider you even less.
Please wake up before your remaining fan discover how good the iPhone, Android phones are.
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June 30th, 2010 at 8:57 am
If I have 100 bucks, I buy Nokia.
If I have 700 bucks, I buy iphone.
That is the difference.
Keep up with good work, Nokia.
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June 30th, 2010 at 10:31 am
Mine actually just shutdowns when I hold it hard, aint this something?
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June 30th, 2010 at 10:35 am
Erm you haven’t seen this then…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=amPG52DVQuk
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June 30th, 2010 at 10:37 am
Nokia 1. Apple 0.
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June 30th, 2010 at 10:40 am
I prefer to hold an iPhone 4 in one way than holding a Nokia in 100 different ways.
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June 30th, 2010 at 11:18 am
Dugg:
http://digg.com/d31VHv0?t
Why Nokia is Going Down:
http://lozil.blogspot.com/2010/06/my-analogy-why-nokia-is-going-down.html
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Lozil Reply:
July 1st, 2010 at 2:22 pm
Seriously, it’s Time for Some Soul searching Nokia
http://www.symbian-guru.com/welcome/2010/07/symbian-guru-com-is-over.html
Just Got this…..!!!
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June 30th, 2010 at 11:26 am
Apple phones do have to be held differently you need blue blood and a pinkie finger held out when you use them.
Or at least you have to act like you are royalty
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June 30th, 2010 at 11:26 am
in my heart…
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June 30th, 2010 at 11:38 am
Dear Nokia,
You might have forgotten that only a couple of years ago you had similair trouble with a Nokia phone, the E71-2.
Maybe a selective memory, and trying to make up for the lost market share. In any case, the best will win……
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June 30th, 2010 at 11:53 am
Wow, I’ve hold it in many types of ways, the Cup is the common one, I also like to hold my Nokia X3 like a small digital camera using my left hand only, either it’s opened or closed…
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June 30th, 2010 at 12:17 pm
I use non of these methods :////
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June 30th, 2010 at 12:44 pm
I’m just sorry I was on holiday and missed all the fun.
I usually hold my phone in a way that looks cool and suave and Ijust pretend to talk into it to impress women. So no signal issue for me and really cheap monthly invoices. Hell yea!
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June 30th, 2010 at 1:48 pm
Depends on what phone.. Flip/Slide/Bar or Touch.
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June 30th, 2010 at 2:14 pm
Being an enthusiastic Nokia fan (an old RH-11 1800 with a prepaid SIM for incoming calls, and an E72 for serious work and outgoing calls), I am laughing myself almost to death here. About Apple, about this article from Nokia, and about everyone’s responses here.
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June 30th, 2010 at 2:19 pm
I prefer to hold my phone in my underpants and put it on vibrate…
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June 30th, 2010 at 2:49 pm
after reading at this post, i LOL at apple
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June 30th, 2010 at 4:25 pm
The HTC Desire is alot more beautiful than the Iphone 4. The Iphone is so last year.
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June 30th, 2010 at 5:08 pm
MAINLY AN AMERICAN PROBLEM,
In Europe an in most Asian cities, the networks are so strong that the signal bars do not move from max.
In a weak network, if you move your phone the distance of half the wavelength (3″), the signal can go to 90% to 10%. This happens in all phones, and was used cleverly in some of the videos. Body attenuation is also a big factor.
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June 30th, 2010 at 6:45 pm
Touche.
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June 30th, 2010 at 6:56 pm
You can also hold a piece of dog s*#t any way you want to, but would you do that?
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June 30th, 2010 at 8:11 pm
Erm, you can hold it in anyway except for one small problem…NOBODY WANTS TO HOLD A NOKIA!
That phone is so ugly, I wouldn’t even wipe my bum with it.
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June 30th, 2010 at 9:17 pm
we dont hold any nokia they dont worth it
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June 30th, 2010 at 9:45 pm
nokia rules!! yeahh!!! from my n70, e90, and 5800 i love them all…
I’d like to nokia release a new comunicator… like e90… not n97 …
and hope soon n900… in america..
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June 30th, 2010 at 10:37 pm
As the plethora of comments imply, this post is a classical Conversations post. I really enjoy your sense of humor.
But don’t forget the sidetalking N-Gage and other landscape mode phones (5510 and 3300) that were difficult to hold with a single hand.
I used a 3300 Europe for more than six years. I was actually using it very recently (for my second SIM). I just replaced it in this December with 5800.
I found a nice live picture of it in the following link:
http://www.mobile-review.com/review/image/nokia/3300/live/pic3.jpg
Anyway, 3300 required a bit practice to hold with a single hand. (And it was heavier than most of its counterparts) Even if you could hold it with a single hand, buttons on the other side of the phone was unreachable with your thumb so you were required either to utilize your other hand or to make some hand tricks to reach the buttons on the other side.
Although there were some exceptions in terms of holding styles, Nokia never had problems with the signal reception due to the holding style.
(PS: In some phones, GPS may be sensitive to how you hold the phone, though.)
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July 1st, 2010 at 1:11 am
“We’ve highlighted a few after the jump”
What jump? There’s no jump. Why do you folks keep using that web cliche?
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July 1st, 2010 at 3:01 am
Hey Nokia, I understand you’re jealous of apple, but please check the manual of Nokia 2320.
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July 1st, 2010 at 3:03 am
leave iPhone 4 alone, poor guys
that’s a lesson for rushin’ thins up
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July 1st, 2010 at 4:26 am
NOKIA is the best one, APPLE SUCKS because is just for kids!!
Cheers form Argentina!
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July 1st, 2010 at 9:29 am
that was nice
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July 1st, 2010 at 10:54 am
Let’s see how well the reception will be (for the iPhone) in other networks outside the US. I can’t use the phone inside Macy’s flagship store in NYC – In Stockholm I can ride the subway 50 meters underground and have full reception.
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July 1st, 2010 at 11:13 am
Nokia folks – make a patent of those “how to handle your nokia” grips and show them as symbols on the product packages. This is unique opportunity to differentiate customer messages from competitors and even market them as features of a fully functional device wihtout compromises.
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July 1st, 2010 at 11:16 am
I like my E61i
First and mostly, it still works so I don’t have to buy a new phone – money saved a lot & environment little bit saved.
Second, I like it.
I tried iPhone, and frankly touchscreens I find very akward. Buttons are very accurate, whether in bus, train, car, standing, sitting, walking.
And E61i phone can be dropped and it still works.
No need to do any updates.
As for signalling quality it worked nicely in East of Iceland live with sportstracker, sent pictures to another part of the world smoothly – simultaneously as I was talking on it.
It could be little faster with the web, but that is to do with the operator – in 3G it works nicely.
My only hope is that Nokia would keep this model’s outsides and make the inside fast, like E71, but keep every other thing just about the same.
Because I find E61i is wide enough for a proper qwerty keyboard (E71 is thinner).
And the screen is awesome big.
And all applications I use are there visible on ONE screen/keyboard and I see emails, text messages and calendar data for today from that same screen. It’s ALL there one place.
It is not the latest phone.
But it’s a phone and I can hold it anyway I happen to hold it.
Best is crabbing it very hard while on the move and messaging with the buttons and still gettin sensible text.
In summary, E61i allows me be fast in other ways too than only purely good signalling quality and processing power.
Oh, and I don’t have to worry about it getting lost or stolen.
Yes, E61i makes ME mobile.
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July 1st, 2010 at 11:51 am
Very funny, Nokia, indeed, but your own 5800 Xpress Music User Guide says the following
“Your device may have internal and external antennas. Avoid
touching the antenna area unnecessarily while the antenna
is transmitting or receiving. Contact with antennas affects the
communication quality and may cause a higher power level
during operation and may reduce the battery life.”
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July 1st, 2010 at 1:43 pm
Hahahahah this article is nice !!
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July 1st, 2010 at 1:53 pm
i have sonny ericsson…. XD
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July 1st, 2010 at 4:13 pm
Hahahahahaha the iPhone is TRASH!
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July 1st, 2010 at 4:28 pm
BRB, I’ve got to switch phones for my ancient nGAGE QD, so I can make a call at starbucks without it dropping.
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July 1st, 2010 at 6:14 pm
I have received a N97 for my fathers’day. And although I’m really thankful to my wife she bought it for me, I have nothing but trouble to get it working. What I miss is the ability to download a binary image that restores the phone to factory settings & code. I’m struggling for 3 days now to get the GPS working. The software update server is unreach-able. If I download the link by OVI or from the phone, it fails error -5. Factory reset doesn’t help. To me, so far it’s a complete WASTE OF MONEY. Personally I already had so much trouble with my former Nokia GSM I already decided never to buy that brand again. Fortunate for them, my wife was un-aware of that intention because I still used it with unspoken frustration. I have never seen such junk software as OVI offline. I have the impression Nokia is unable to provide bug-free phones. Based on my experience, I don’t think I will recommend Nokia unless I really get out of this sh*t soon.
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July 1st, 2010 at 6:39 pm
Nokia for sure is a very high quality brand of phones, i had a nokia for years, never needed another phone, until iphone… i think is a diffrent target of people, nokia is more for people that wants a higth quality phone, and iphone is also high end phone but is more for geeks and people that like their phones more like a computer, all of you have to accept that for iphone the applicationns have no limit, for nokia i dont know but im pretty sure that is not as much as for the iphone.
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July 1st, 2010 at 7:41 pm
Here you go Nokia… READ THIS “Symbian-Guru.com Is Over”
http://www.symbian-guru.com/welcome/2010/07/symbian-guru-com-is-over.html
This guys says it all more than I could ever say about Nokia products and especially Symbian O/S…
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July 1st, 2010 at 7:57 pm
Well, Apple has a tough job on their hands as suddenly they’ve found themselves where Microsoft enjoyed over the years. So Beware Apple.
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July 1st, 2010 at 8:28 pm
I agree this would be more amusing if Nokia didn’t have a way worse track record. I’ve got a Nokia E72 and the software is appalingly buggy. The difference is at least Apple have had to respond to the criticism. Nokia ignores it. (Not that the whole concept of a $600 state of the art phone you need to hold in a special way isn’t silly).
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July 2nd, 2010 at 12:24 am
that was awesome!! apple sucks! i-phone sucks!
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July 2nd, 2010 at 2:45 am
This is how I do (hold) it
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July 2nd, 2010 at 7:34 am
omg there are a lot of nerds who really get upset about who’s manufacturer sticker is on the device we use to make calls with
get a life, all of u! it’s a bl00dy phone! it is mean to assist your life, not be your life!
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shandya Reply:
July 2nd, 2010 at 8:01 pm
lol. good point
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July 2nd, 2010 at 8:31 am
Another ridiculous grip we had to apply was on the N-gage. I think that was an even bigger embarrassment than the Teardrop phone
anyway, sometimes you get it right the first time, and sometimes you dont.
Nokia, u guys have also been guilty of getting it wrong the first time too. But anyway, i still love you guys.
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July 2nd, 2010 at 9:38 am
I once wrapped my nokia phone in aluminium foil..
it was the only time that it lost all reception
lol
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July 2nd, 2010 at 10:04 am
Everytime I see “Apple sucks”, I read “I can’t afford one, therefore it sucks”…kinda childish.
In reality, it’s a good thing that there are iphone-haters, otherwise the waitinglist would be even longer
Is the Iphone the best phone? No
Is the iphone value for money? In the shortrun no, in the longrun yes.
I have been using a cell phone for more than 12 years and have had every brand you can name, some cheap, some expensive, from very basic, to Windows Mobile smartphone, but none have surved my purpose as well as the iphone. Most phone lasted less than 2 years some even only a few months. It iphone is now in its 3rd year and going strong. Am I a cult junky? Not in the least, but I do demand quality and up to now that has been a fruitfull phylosophy. I pay more for quality equipment and save money in the long run because it lasts longer.
I’m sure there are other and better phones out there, but what is good for me in not by definition good for your…and a good thing that is too.
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July 2nd, 2010 at 11:55 am
I use “The Balance”, i have a touch screen device (htc hero) and i find the balance gives me easy access to both the hard keys and the on screen keyboard and items. Sometimes whilst texting i hold it sideways and use both thumbs to type this is handy for typing long messages faster.
Also, with the iPhone being best options, i have had an iPhone and now use android, i much prefer android. Personal opinion but give android a month max and you will fall for it
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July 2nd, 2010 at 6:55 pm
I hold my Nokia temporary phone like I’m ready to throw it at the wall.
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July 2nd, 2010 at 9:09 pm
Hmm. It’s almost like a Kama Sutra for cell phones.
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July 3rd, 2010 at 6:18 am
“Of course, feel free to ignore all of the above because realistically, you’re free to hold your Nokia device any way you like. And you won’t suffer any signal loss. Cool, huh?”
I’m sure it has been pointed out by other comment posters that Nokia is lying here. Check the user’s guide for any of their phones with internal antennas and you will find a warning against blocking the antenna. Page 19 in the N900 guide it says:
“Your device may have internal and external antennas. Avoid touching the antenna area unnecessarily while the antenna is transmitting or receiving. Contact with antennas affects the communication quality and may cause a higher power level during operation and may reduce the battery life.”
And in the guide to one of their old flagships, the E90, you will find this on page 14:
“Your device has internal antennas.
Note: As with any radio transmitting device, avoid touching an antenna unnecessarily when the antenna is in use. For example, avoid touching the cellular antenna during a phone call. Contact with a transmitting or receiving antenna affects the quality of the radio communication, may cause the device to operate at a higher power level than otherwise needed, and may reduce the battery life.”
On from the guide to one of their current models, the E72, on page 17:
“Antenna locations
Your device may have internal and external antennas. Avoid touching the antenna area unnecessarily while the antenna is transmitting or receiving. Contact with antennas affects the communication quality and may cause a higher power level during operation and may reduce the battery life.”
Do you see a pattern here? Like Winston Smith will Nokia update these user guides and remove these warnings to make their claims about holding your phone any way you like be true?
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July 3rd, 2010 at 7:11 am
Just last year I bought my last Nokia ever. Synmbian sucks, screen scrathes easily and apps are utter crap. And this E66 can’t even load it’s battery from usb-port and what’s disturbing is that it can’t load itself with official device when the phone is connected to an usb-port. It freezes occasinally mid call also. Thank you, goodbye. I’m of to better products.
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July 3rd, 2010 at 7:19 am
ihpone has a cool feature – ssl (”super signal loss”) beat that! yeah
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July 4th, 2010 at 5:39 pm
I don’t understand how can Nokia be even close to comparison with iphone, android’s handsets or even BlackBerry. They are far superior than Nokia handsets. BlackBerry BOLD 9700 is much better than its counterparts in Nokia.
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July 4th, 2010 at 7:13 pm
I’ve never seen so much butthurt in the comments section of one article in my life.
This is incredibly hilarious. Thanks for the laughs, Nokia. Then thanks for the other laughs that I was totally expecting.
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July 5th, 2010 at 10:16 am
Same problem in the LG KM900
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July 5th, 2010 at 1:24 pm
“teardrop 3G ONE” in such article,what’s the meaning ?who can tell me .teardrop?
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July 5th, 2010 at 1:42 pm
All Nokia E66 have reception problems!
When the signal is slightly low and keep the phone in hand, the signal drops to nothing … Any meted you described is harmful to my phone!
Nokia looks at yourself and be sincere
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July 5th, 2010 at 4:26 pm
Hey Nokia, mind specifying you had the same issue on your “devices” a couple of years ago ?? Don’t remember any of your competitors comming out with such “useful advice” then ?
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July 5th, 2010 at 6:07 pm
Nokia had displayed the ugly side of human by creating a big deal out of iPhone 4’s flaw. Is that nothing that this company,, NOkia wont do? To think it had stooped so low in order to win back its standing……… I am so ashamed at this behavior. Luckily I have never bought a Nokia product before and this post will strengthen my belief again. Shame on you Nokia, you will fail, you proved yrself a loser.
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July 6th, 2010 at 11:41 am
Apple and its fanboys suck ! Alright Jobs – you screwed up, STFU you sore loosers !
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July 8th, 2010 at 9:17 am
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Zsuxbd0L0g
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July 12th, 2010 at 3:12 pm
I found an interesting reference to this article but it is somewhat incorrect…
Find out what i mena here: http://mitchservice.com/blog/tech/interesting-article-but-the-facts-are-wrong/
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July 14th, 2010 at 12:09 pm
It seems that Apple has released the iPhone 4 knowing that there was the problem of poor antenna reception for this reason they launched simultaneously the bumper case, something he did not do with any of the previous iPhones versions
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July 14th, 2010 at 7:28 pm
Nokia is just jealous
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July 16th, 2010 at 2:32 am
the name tells it all
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July 16th, 2010 at 11:07 am
i use the cup, for holding my nokia..
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July 16th, 2010 at 5:46 pm
Ok, ok…
Now hold this one.
http://www.businessinsider.com/nokia-shareholders-outraged-by-pathetic-performance-want-ceo-booted-immediately-2010-7
and this one
http://www.businessinsider.com/you-cant-appreciate-how-completely-apple-has-humiliated-rim-nokia-and-the-rest-of-the-gadget-industry-until-you-see-these-charts-2010-7
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July 16th, 2010 at 10:17 pm
“Contact with the transmitting or receiving antenna affects the quality of the ratio communication, may cause the device to operate at a higher power level than otherwise needed, and may reduce battery life.” Cool, huh?
http://img697.imageshack.us/img697/8827/nokiaiy.jpg
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July 17th, 2010 at 12:09 am
The slight loss of signal if you cover the antenna in your hand is just physics. But in Apple’s case, where your hand shorts the antenna if you touch the bottom, causing a total signal loss is completely different thing and BAD RF design.
I have had no problems with signal loss with my E71 and i hold it in cup of my hand.
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July 17th, 2010 at 2:50 am
Ummm.. Nice article…
Its funny and interesting
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July 17th, 2010 at 12:53 pm
hey guys youre totally hillarious!!
right, I chip in! iPhone sux because it jails you. limits your software options. jobs sayeth and we follow — NOT.
but then, nokia also isnt always good at giving ppl the freedom to f.ck with their phones as they want. I want chinese chars on my 6720c, but couldnt yet find a way for that.
now this sux. nokia, are you serious!!??? changing the fonts should be the easiest thing in the world!! wtf, what time are we living in??? this isnt the bloody 1980ies. moreover the system is unicode, so its just the freakin font missing. SERIOUSLY!!!!
part from that 6720c is robust, practical, nice mp3 player, bluetooth just works, camera ok, great stuff.
no way i’m going for closed-apple. rather for windows mobile, if its a smartphone cause of the bloomed font sillyness.
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July 17th, 2010 at 8:01 pm
hahaha very good article
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July 18th, 2010 at 6:00 pm
What if I decide to hold the bottom of the phone with my teeth while I’m on a call? With the microphone in my mouth, the call quality for the person on the other end should be impeccable, right? Aside from little muffled.
Would that put my brain at risk for direct exposure to the signal?
Nokia did say “any way you like”, right?
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July 19th, 2010 at 5:21 pm
The saga continues… A starlett from Paraguay showing how to hold her Nokia E71.
http://www.symbian-freak.com/news/010/07/larissa_riquelme_and_nokia_e71.htm
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July 19th, 2010 at 5:56 pm
Well with all the flamming here i hope i don’t stir more madness here. I have a 5800XM, and i use it for almost 2 years. Of course it cannot compete with theelegant body design, faster processor, a dedicated graphic chip, a beautiful and sleek UI of an iOS on the iPhone. But certainly it has more than an iPhone does. It has a larger camera resolution plus a flash, a video call feature, and as i mention flash, might i as well mention about the Java Flash availibility on Symbian. The robustness of 5800 is also overpowered iPhone, i am a clumsy person, i have many time dropped my phone, use it in the rain but it still serve me with all its function. So in my opinion, i already have the right choice in my hand…
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July 19th, 2010 at 6:31 pm
Iphone 4.0 K.O
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July 20th, 2010 at 11:44 am
IPhone SUCKS, as all Apple products that tries to be “exclusive” and “cool” but they are the worst quality/prize avaliable in market
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July 20th, 2010 at 11:45 am
IPhone S-U-C-K-S, as all Apple products that tries to be “exclusive” and “cool” but they are the worst quality/prize avaliable in market
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July 20th, 2010 at 11:45 am
IPhone is awful, as all Apple products that tries to be “exclusive” and “cool” but they are the worst quality/prize avaliable in market
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July 21st, 2010 at 12:31 pm
Dear,
I have A Nokia E-71, and have a problem with that it connectivity is very poor. so give me proper solution what i am doing. Give me quick replies.
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July 21st, 2010 at 5:36 pm
Dear nokia, im holding the phone as you say like i want but still i get theses results
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LddlXgkulU0
:p
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July 22nd, 2010 at 5:27 am
You love Nokia..
I love Nokia,
We love Nokia,
And everyone Love it,
=)
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U Reply:
July 27th, 2010 at 2:45 am
Nope. I hate my nokia phone and nokia too!
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July 22nd, 2010 at 7:53 pm
Nokia worlds best mobile phone company.nokia phone operate is very easy for every one
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July 23rd, 2010 at 3:11 pm
I usually use the Cup method… that’s method is most comfortable to hold my phone..
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July 25th, 2010 at 10:40 pm
My N900’s back is covered by a large Chinese battery and cover. Works excellent in all ways.
Simply a perfect phone – if Nokia ever finished its firmware instead of changing mind like some of us change socks.
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July 26th, 2010 at 11:05 am
free style..
http://a.imageshack.us/img413/1093/nokiak.jpg
note ; photo captured at ” Kartal – Kadikoy E5 Minibus Line / 1stanbul. “
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August 1st, 2010 at 2:04 am
Regardless of the type of device or mobile phone is more important is the signal strength is more important in the mobile phone after the emergence of Steve, a guide customers, forcing them to catch the machine right side only this is a big problem for your issue, I am with the technical Nokia if I loved you hold the device as you want it will not be affected reception
Regards
I hope that the recognition of the company Apple of the problem and apologize to all customers
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August 2nd, 2010 at 1:43 am
How about the no-handed hold: steering wheel in one hand, drink in the other, phone between ear and shoulder?
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August 3rd, 2010 at 3:35 am
Just read your Nokia manual and you will find a statement like:
“Your device may have internal and external antennas. Avoid touching the antenna area unnecessarily while the antenna is transmitting or receiving.
Contact with antennas affects the communication quality and may cause higher power level during operation an may reduce the battery life.”
From Nokia E5 manual including an image of the antenna area.
Sounds like you cannot hold your phone freely; you have to avoid the antenna!
I used Nokia phones for more than 11 years and every manual I have read has similar information.
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August 5th, 2010 at 9:52 am
Nokia has 2 serious issues that are not addressed.
1) Phones that have been sold, and in use, wont get firmware updates at regular intervals (through the network).
2) Fully featured browser is still missing. Nokia, where is symbian port of Firefox including audio playback capability?
Firing CEO doesn’t solve these. Making correcting decisions does.
I’m just dissappointed 5800XM user. Repairing firmware gliches for every model is way more important than pushing some Microsoft-related email add-ons.
(software developer)
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August 5th, 2010 at 9:58 am
Nokia has 2 serious issues that are not addressed.
1) Phones that have been sold, and in use, wont get firmware updates at regular intervals (through the network).
2) Fully featured browser is still missing. Nokia, where is symbian port of Firefox including audio playback capability?
Firing CEO doesn’t solve these. Making correcting decisions does.
I’m just dissappointed 5800XM user. Repairing firmware gliches for every model is way more important than pushing some Microsoft-related email add-ons.
(software developer)
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August 7th, 2010 at 1:11 pm
Hi,
You know China notebook UMPC is sure that other major players both in the hardware and the software world will try to come out with something substantial to answer to Microsoft’s challenge.
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August 10th, 2010 at 10:53 am
Dear Nokia guys,
there exists a serious reception problem with the NOKIA E71 as well. even in areas with high poulation density and a very good reception!
So guys, don´t make fun, start WORKING to get your problems solved!
This would benefit your customers a lot.
I am thinking of changing to Balckberry.
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August 11th, 2010 at 8:58 am
I have spoken to apple fans that have the iphone 4 they said the reception is so much better then the iphone 3gs and nokia phones here in australia and i have spoken to some that have no problems with recption without a cover on the phone at all and i find it funny that apple uses the usa as ginni pigs with the iphones that apple brings out and thats why the usa gets them first and here in australia if you get a iphone from the apple store and online store are unlocked and some poeple are buying them on ebay and buyers in the usa are buying the iphones from australia unlocked.
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August 18th, 2010 at 12:26 pm
Try to use N97 and you will see what crap is..
After iPhone I will never return to Nokia crap.
N97 is plagued with WSOD so dont bother installing application because OS is anyway gonna crash and you will have to erase all your data
iPhone and Blackberryes are best phones out there. Face the fact, Nokia is crap
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