Nokia has time on its side says CTO Dr Henry Tirri

Business and creativity are working in harmony to produce disruptions

Published by Trevor Davies on December 22, 2011

Dr Henry Tirri

HELSINKI, Finland – When I met white-suited Dr Henry Tirri, I couldn’t help contrasting him with dark-suited CEO Stephen Elop, at the head of Nokia.

Nokia’s Chief Technology Officer is an insprational one-off. He made a scientific Muggle like myself feel comfortable in his presence, even though I was aware of an intelligence and wealth of knowledge way above mine.

Dr Tirri is a free-thinking philosopher, gazing into the future, selecting areas of mobile technology Nokia should pursue.

Tirri and Elop, with their contrasting backgrounds, embody exactly where Nokia is right now as it changes its business. 

And, according to Dr Tirri, Nokia is achieving a harmonious balancing act between creativity and strict business, positioning the company to unleash some major disruptions in the mobile industry.

Celebrating 25 years of Nokia Research Center in Sunnyvale, California recently, he highlighted the ongoing importance of NRC’s contribution to Nokia’s future. 

“When I reflect on NRC’s 25th anniversary, the first thing which comes to mind is how privileged I have been to work with the inspiring people at NRC over the last seven years,” said Dr Tirri.

“NRC has developed from a single lab in 1986 to a worldwide research organization with multiple locations.

“The maturity of NRC ensures the productivity of each lab for the future. And as well as celebrating the labs’ great achievements over the last 25 years I’m really excited about what we will see from NRC in years to come.”

The power of disruptions

It’s the role of Nokia’s CTO and his organization to create Nokia’s future disruptions by looking beyond the current technological horizon.

And, as Adjunct Professor of Computer Science at the University of Helsinki and Adjunct Professor of Computational Engineering at Aalto University, Henry is well qualified to lead those efforts.

Speaking with the Finnish scientist before his appearance in Sunnyvale, he described how important “disruptions” are to Nokia.

“The technology or invention itself is never disruptive, it is the efficient application or novel business use that creates the disruption,” he says.

Dr Henry Tirri

“If you come out with something disruptive first which creates a new experience; that’s the way to make the most money. When the next players come in, the value is diluted.

“Those driving new segments usually have the advantage so it is most valuable at the beginning, but it is always time dependent, and it will always be diluted to a new level.

“It’s dangerous for any technology company to say they will always be satisfied with following others and doing it better.”

Key to investment

Henry says there are two approaches to research, empirical and artistic.

“There are two extreme approaches. You have a very strict innovation process using metrics as a filter. You can measure the market, the demand and weigh it all up. Is the innovation going to be important? That’s the process end. The other end is the hugely creative and visionary part where you drive something with uncertain pay-off and risk which is hard to predict.

“You say OK, I believe this is our best bet. I believe this is the right thing to do. Both approaches have their challenges. The creative part is very good if you have someone with this extraordinary ability and visionary skill.

“But I don’t know a single person who has consistently done it. Not even the late Steve Jobs managed it. But of course he was an exceptional individual.

“The other approach is that you have a big portfolio with a huge amount of experiments and have thousands of products, but it’s very hard to be truly disruptive with developments like this because they all average out.”

Wise bets

So, for Henry, it’s vital to take risks and make a few, large-investment bets.

“Strategy and big vision should be pushed by a few individuals,” he says. “Somebody needs to make the decision to bet on a particular area, say, connectivity. So you need this combination of a scientific and artistic approach at the same time.”

And in Henry’s view, Nokia and NRC are in a great position now.

“We are making wise bets, even though it is not yet clear whether each will pay off. The artistic wisdom is to choose the area to invest in; the science comes in to do the work within these areas, to make the bets pay off. NRC makes it possible for Nokia to make bets over a wide spectrum of topics.

Nokia Research Center blueprint

“I always believe there’s an era for research organizations. And Nokia Research Center’s focus is at the core of the era of mobility.

“This is a winning combination, if you have the proper competencies and maturity at the time that it’s needed most.

“If you come too early to market nobody can utilize, value or even recognize the product for what it is. If you come late with a time lag of several years, by the time you have caught up, the world has moved on.”

It’s all about the timing

Henry cites examples of Nokia getting things correct in the right era such as radio, GSM and 3G. It’s impossible to calculate just how big these disruptions were in the mobile industry.

But he admits that touchscreen was an example of getting something right at the wrong time.

“We were a bit early with some of the user interfaces like swiping and touching. Back in ’95 and ’96 the screen technology for the use cases was wrong. The screens at that time were tiny.

“In some sense you could say that the vision was ahead of its time. But then of course the question is about revisiting the vision later on when it becomes possible.

“This is a good example of how critical timing can be.”

As to what Nokia has in the ideas bank at the moment, Henry is not giving anything away. He will only hint that there’s plenty. And Nokia has the business talent in the shape of Steven Elop and other senior leaders to develop them.

“One of the things I learned from our friends at Microsoft is that there is this notion of a research organization maturing,” he says. “It reaches a maturity when it starts really producing things. It’s almost like human evolution, so after 25 years you become really productive.

“I believe NRC is at a very productive stage. It’s much broader than it used to be. It’s learned and widened its scope globally. It’s widened its domains of research from radio and networking to User Interface and nanoscience, form factors and growth economies.

“So it’s a real adult now.”

As for the future?

“It’s not any one thing. The future is more and more related to moving physical things to the digital world,” he says.

“This trend is accelerating now, because of mobile computers and the sensors in them. So what we see now is that location is moving to the digital world.

“So your context and what you sense in your environment is all becoming digital.

“We are going to be able index the physical world in the same way we index documents.

“There will be far more interplay between the digital world and the physical.

“The reverse side of sensors means that you can also impact the physical world. Take traffic for example, if you move traffic measurement into the digital world and then you feed that back to people, it changes their physical behavior.”

Nokia’s challenge

He says Nokia’s biggest challenge is in finding the best places in the value chain to extract the value.

“Nokia’s challenge is to decide in which parts of this physical to digital transformation to play.”

It could be in one of three areas, the data, the handset, or in creating the connections to share the information.

And Nokia is at the forefront in all three areas. So the value could lie in combining all three into one disruptive device.

“Bringing all three together into a seamless consumer experience will be the ideal solution,” he says.

For more about Dr Henry read his quickfire question interview.

Comments

  • Anonymous

    If the situation today is unclear/speculative as indicated in “So the value could lie in combining all three into one disruptive device”, why not then to simulate the above scenarios by using conditional probability theories what you should know very well?

  • Anonymous

    If the situation today is unclear/speculative as indicated in “So the value could lie in combining all three into one disruptive device”, why not then to simulate the above scenarios by using conditional probability theories what you should know very well?

  • Anonymous

    If the situation today is unclear/speculative as indicated in “So the value could lie in combining all three into one disruptive device”, why not then to simulate the above scenarios by using conditional probability theories what you should know very well?

  • Anonymous

    If the situation today is unclear/speculative as indicated in “So the value could lie in combining all three into one disruptive device”, why not then to simulate the above scenarios by using conditional probability theories what you should know very well?

  • Anonymous

    If the situation today is unclear/speculative as indicated in “So the value could lie in combining all three into one disruptive device”, why not then to simulate the above scenarios by using conditional probability theories what you should know very well?

  • Anonymous

    If the situation today is unclear/speculative as indicated in “So the value could lie in combining all three into one disruptive device”, why not then to simulate the above scenarios by using conditional probability theories what you should know very well?

  • Anonymous

    If the situation today is unclear/speculative as indicated in “So the value could lie in combining all three into one disruptive device”, why not then to simulate the above scenarios by using conditional probability theories what you should know very well?

  • Anonymous

    If the situation today is unclear/speculative as indicated in “So the value could lie in combining all three into one disruptive device”, why not then to simulate the above scenarios by using conditional probability theories what you should know very well?

  • Anonymous

    If the situation today is unclear/speculative as indicated in “So the value could lie in combining all three into one disruptive device”, why not then to simulate the above scenarios by using conditional probability theories what you should know very well?

  • Anonymous

    Apple and Google disrupted the cellular industry – they were both new entrants. Nokia faced the classical “innovators dilemma”  – they continued with technology and products that sustained their current lineup – the slowness of them implementing a touch interface.

    If Nokia are committed to disruption then does the tie up with MS mean little as that is not a disruptive strategy its essentially one similar to Ios  and Android. Or is Nokia willing to change the industry by taking it down a different track.

  • Anonymous

    Nokia’s challange is to understand what people are wanting and why Android is currently such successful. 

    Not everyone want’s a iPhone. And those who don’t like how Apple controls the users are currently forced to buy a Android deviceThose users want’s surly not such a system like windows phone 7 – there is a reason why WP7 has only 2% market share. I’m not even able to find how to replace this bing button with something I would like! And for this expirience I should pay money?!
    If I want a iPhone clone I would buy a iPhone! Especial if it is at the same prize!
    So please, keep Nokia alive and release finally a competitive Device to Android worldwide. This way the people currently forced to buy Android devices have a competitior and the choice.Something decent like the N9 or N950 with the camera from the N8 would be great. The price doesn’t matter if the expirience is as great as at the N9! Currently there are all over only advertisements for this expensive feature phone Lumia 800. Even the USB Plug doesn’t work! Release Smartphones!

  • Anonymous

    Nokia’s challange is to understand what people are wanting and why Android is currently such successful. 

    Not everyone want’s a iPhone. And those who don’t like how Apple controls the users are currently forced to buy a Android deviceThose users want’s surly not such a system like windows phone 7 – there is a reason why WP7 has only 2% market share. I’m not even able to find how to replace this bing button with something I would like! And for this expirience I should pay money?!
    If I want a iPhone clone I would buy a iPhone! Especial if it is at the same prize!
    So please, keep Nokia alive and release finally a competitive Device to Android worldwide. This way the people currently forced to buy Android devices have a competitior and the choice.Something decent like the N9 or N950 with the camera from the N8 would be great. The price doesn’t matter if the expirience is as great as at the N9! Currently there are all over only advertisements for this expensive feature phone Lumia 800. Even the USB Plug doesn’t work! Release Smartphones!

    • Anonymous

      the Lumia range offers great competition to iPhone and Android. on price, style and a great alternative UI experience. The USB plug works really well on mine. It’s really easy to load up music and transfer content to my laptop whether it’s my Mac for work or Windows 7 PC at home. After speaking to Dr Henry Tirri, I am confident that Nokia has plenty more devices up its sleeve that people will love.

      • Anonymous

        What do you thing about N9?

        • Anonymous

          I love it. If I could afford it, I’d have it as my personal phone and a Nokia Lumia 800 for work.

          • http://twitter.com/janchrist Jan Christensen

            I have a N9 private and E7 at work. Both works great but the N9 is astonishing!

          • http://twitter.com/janchrist Jan Christensen

            I have a N9 private and E7 at work. Both works great but the N9 is astonishing!

          • http://twitter.com/janchrist Jan Christensen

            I have a N9 private and E7 at work. Both works great but the N9 is astonishing!

          • http://twitter.com/janchrist Jan Christensen

            I have a N9 private and E7 at work. Both works great but the N9 is astonishing!

          • http://twitter.com/janchrist Jan Christensen

            I have a N9 private and E7 at work. Both works great but the N9 is astonishing!

          • http://twitter.com/janchrist Jan Christensen

            I have a N9 private and E7 at work. Both works great but the N9 is astonishing!

          • http://twitter.com/janchrist Jan Christensen

            I have a N9 private and E7 at work. Both works great but the N9 is astonishing!

          • http://twitter.com/janchrist Jan Christensen

            I have a N9 private and E7 at work. Both works great but the N9 is astonishing!

          • http://twitter.com/janchrist Jan Christensen

            I have a N9 private and E7 at work. Both works great but the N9 is astonishing!

      • Anonymous

        No, the USB Port doesn’t work properly. Only at my home PC if I open the Zune Software. But I’m unable to install Zune at work (not allowed) and even my Sony TV or my Car Stereo doesn’t recognize the Lumia 800. 

        All other devices I had so far worked great. So there is something wrong with this Device!

        • Anonymous

          I’m sorry, but just because your work won’t allow certain software on your system doesn’t mean the USB doesn’t work. Do you have Microsoft at work? If so, there’s a lot of stuff you can transfer via the cloud to your work PC

          • Anonymous

            It is clear that the fault is device related. Why should I need special kind of software to use a standard USB Port?

            And yes, we have “Microsoft” at work. But we have also a corporate Firewall, too. So Cloud storage is not a opinion. And by the way my contract is limited to 1GB transfer per month, so if there is a USB Port I would prefer to use USB instead of UMTS to transfer images.

            And I’m sure I’m unable to install Microsoft Zune on my Sony Flatscreen and my JVC Car Stereo. But they support all other Devices I used so far. I plugged them in and had access to my files on the device without problems.

          • Anonymous

            It is clear that the fault is device related. Why should I need special kind of software to use a standard USB Port?

            And yes, we have “Microsoft” at work. But we have also a corporate Firewall, too. So Cloud storage is not a opinion. And by the way my contract is limited to 1GB transfer per month, so if there is a USB Port I would prefer to use USB instead of UMTS to transfer images.

            And I’m sure I’m unable to install Microsoft Zune on my Sony Flatscreen and my JVC Car Stereo. But they support all other Devices I used so far. I plugged them in and had access to my files on the device without problems.

          • Anonymous

            It is clear that the fault is device related. Why should I need special kind of software to use a standard USB Port?

            And yes, we have “Microsoft” at work. But we have also a corporate Firewall, too. So Cloud storage is not a opinion. And by the way my contract is limited to 1GB transfer per month, so if there is a USB Port I would prefer to use USB instead of UMTS to transfer images.

            And I’m sure I’m unable to install Microsoft Zune on my Sony Flatscreen and my JVC Car Stereo. But they support all other Devices I used so far. I plugged them in and had access to my files on the device without problems.

          • Anonymous

            try the help site here http://conversations.nokia.com/2011/12/02/nokia-lumia-800-cares-about-you/

          • http://www.vkvraju.com vkvraju

            Don’t bother him too much. He is just a paid MS troll…

            Wake me up when I can drag-drop files to/from my phone. Symbian dit it. Maemo did it. Meego too.

          • Anonymous

            The need for cloud storage on the WP phones is implemented to please the carriers. More data transfere means larger phone bills for you and more cash to the carriers. The carriers are the most important sales canal in many markets so Nokia and MS has to please them. Blame the regulators that allow bundling of phones with subscription services and clueless people that believe that they get subsidized when they get a phone free or at low cost when they sign a long time contract.   

        • Anonymous

          I’m sorry, but just because your work won’t allow certain software on your system doesn’t mean the USB doesn’t work. Do you have Microsoft at work? If so, there’s a lot of stuff you can transfer via the cloud to your work PC

        • Anonymous

          I’m sorry, but just because your work won’t allow certain software on your system doesn’t mean the USB doesn’t work. Do you have Microsoft at work? If so, there’s a lot of stuff you can transfer via the cloud to your work PC

        • Anonymous

          I’m sorry, but just because your work won’t allow certain software on your system doesn’t mean the USB doesn’t work. Do you have Microsoft at work? If so, there’s a lot of stuff you can transfer via the cloud to your work PC

        • Anonymous

          I’m sorry, but just because your work won’t allow certain software on your system doesn’t mean the USB doesn’t work. Do you have Microsoft at work? If so, there’s a lot of stuff you can transfer via the cloud to your work PC

        • Anonymous

          I’m sorry, but just because your work won’t allow certain software on your system doesn’t mean the USB doesn’t work. Do you have Microsoft at work? If so, there’s a lot of stuff you can transfer via the cloud to your work PC

      • Anonymous

        WP and iOS are walled gardens. Android is more open space. People inclined to like Android will not touch a WP phone but could very well go with e.g. the N9.
        Symbians reputation is in the thrash in western countries and Nokia will need to demonstrate substantial improvements to the user experience if they are to change this trend.

      • Anonymous

        WP and iOS are walled gardens. Android is more open space. People inclined to like Android will not touch a WP phone but could very well go with e.g. the N9.
        Symbians reputation is in the thrash in western countries and Nokia will need to demonstrate substantial improvements to the user experience if they are to change this trend.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_P476YZNFDDCFJR35QE4K56U2VU Dennis M S

      Check out the N9 …you’ll never want for anything

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_P476YZNFDDCFJR35QE4K56U2VU Dennis M S

      Check out the N9 …you’ll never want for anything

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_P476YZNFDDCFJR35QE4K56U2VU Dennis M S

      Check out the N9 …you’ll never want for anything

  • http://twitter.com/HailMarxism fred sparrow

    OK, listen up carefully Nokia Executives

    The first thing Nokia need to concentrate on is connecting with the market, which is young, ambitious, and competitive. More importantly however, it’s not made up of the same people that bought your phones in the 90′s.
    In this respect, Nokia is in the midst of an identity crisis – a mid life conundrum if you like. They need to re-invent the brand so that it appeals to a younger, more dynamic audience. One that doesn’t like being told what to do by generation X (their parents, as well as the sleazy 40 something guys who try to pick them up in clubs). To this affect, rebellion, and more importantly “independence”,  are still the two predominant factors that will influence what a young adult does or does not do.
    Publicity campaigns like “Mapstronaut” and “hug a stranger”, while sound conceptual ideas, just  won’t cut it with today’s youth ( as far as they’re concerned, this is something grandma would do ). At the same time, pitching a “Justin Beiber Phone” to the 18-25 demographic will not work either, so you need to find some kind of balance between adolescence and independence.

  • http://twitter.com/HailMarxism fred sparrow

    OK, listen up carefully Nokia Executives

    The first thing Nokia need to concentrate on is connecting with the market, which is young, ambitious, and competitive. More importantly however, it’s not made up of the same people that bought your phones in the 90′s.
    In this respect, Nokia is in the midst of an identity crisis – a mid life conundrum if you like. They need to re-invent the brand so that it appeals to a younger, more dynamic audience. One that doesn’t like being told what to do by generation X (their parents, as well as the sleazy 40 something guys who try to pick them up in clubs). To this affect, rebellion, and more importantly “independence”,  are still the two predominant factors that will influence what a young adult does or does not do.
    Publicity campaigns like “Mapstronaut” and “hug a stranger”, while sound conceptual ideas, just  won’t cut it with today’s youth ( as far as they’re concerned, this is something grandma would do ). At the same time, pitching a “Justin Beiber Phone” to the 18-25 demographic will not work either, so you need to find some kind of balance between adolescence and independence.

  • http://twitter.com/HailMarxism fred sparrow

    OK, listen up carefully Nokia Executives

    The first thing Nokia need to concentrate on is connecting with the market, which is young, ambitious, and competitive. More importantly however, it’s not made up of the same people that bought your phones in the 90′s.
    In this respect, Nokia is in the midst of an identity crisis – a mid life conundrum if you like. They need to re-invent the brand so that it appeals to a younger, more dynamic audience. One that doesn’t like being told what to do by generation X (their parents, as well as the sleazy 40 something guys who try to pick them up in clubs). To this affect, rebellion, and more importantly “independence”,  are still the two predominant factors that will influence what a young adult does or does not do.
    Publicity campaigns like “Mapstronaut” and “hug a stranger”, while sound conceptual ideas, just  won’t cut it with today’s youth ( as far as they’re concerned, this is something grandma would do ). At the same time, pitching a “Justin Beiber Phone” to the 18-25 demographic will not work either, so you need to find some kind of balance between adolescence and independence.

    • Anonymous

      Does “reinventing the brand” mean throwing all _old_customers_ into the trash?

  • Anonymous

    I’m starting to be tired and irritated of that word – ”
    disruptions”!

    • Anonymous

      I can see your point. But I think its relevant in this area, because if you are going to invest very large amounts of money in researching and developing new tech, then it’s only worth doing so if it is going to result in something which is truly “disruptive”. But if you have a better word?

      • Anonymous

        Just talking and talking about “disruption” doesn’t make a _disruption_ happen.
        The touch screen interfaces existed for a long time along with classical key-based phones. However, Apple _disrupted_ this marked with finger-touch-oriented iOS/iPhone. It’s a good example.But I can’t see moving to WP/Microsoft as a _disruption_ of any kind.I can hear word “disruption” over and over again, but I can’t see any.

        • Anonymous

          Dr Henry Tirri is talking about the future, not the here and now. But it’s interesting that he notes the touchscreen as an example of wrong timing. So I’m taking it as a sign that Nokia has learned from that. The really interesting thing about Nokia is that I don’t think there is another phone maker that can match their corporate R&D structure, so they must have a massive chance of remaining the No1 phone producer (by volume) in the future.

          • Anonymous

            To be honest, I’am afraid the most for the future of Nokia because of what is going on now/today.

          • Anonymous

            Let’s see if you feel the same way this time next year because I’m sure that everything Nokia is doing at the moment is aimed at addressing your points and some others posted here. It’s going to be an interesting 12 months.

          • Anonymous

            Let’s see if you feel the same way this time next year because I’m sure that everything Nokia is doing at the moment is aimed at addressing your points and some others posted here. It’s going to be an interesting 12 months.

  • Anonymous

    I’m starting to be tired and irritated of that word – ”
    disruptions”!

  • Anonymous

    “If you come out with something disruptive first which creates a new experience; that’s the way to make the most money. When the _next_players_ come in, the value is diluted.”
    Who is the _next_player_ to come in?
    Was Nokia the first company to make WP handsets? “First _Real_ WP phones”?

  • Anonymous

    “If you come out with something disruptive first which creates a new experience; that’s the way to make the most money. When the _next_players_ come in, the value is diluted.”
    Who is the _next_player_ to come in?
    Was Nokia the first company to make WP handsets? “First _Real_ WP phones”?

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  • Lauri Gröhn

    “Never think what people want but what they need.” (Steve Jobs) 

    • Anonymous

      You misquote a man the whole industry has enormous respect for. He said this: “You can’t just ask customers what they want and then try to give that to them. By the time you get it built, they’ll want something new.” – Inc. Magazine

    • Anonymous

      You misquote a man the whole industry has enormous respect for. He said this: “You can’t just ask customers what they want and then try to give that to them. By the time you get it built, they’ll want something new.” – Inc. Magazine

  • Lauri Gröhn

    “Never think what people want but what they need.” (Steve Jobs) 

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  • Jussi Nieminen

    Wow, it never ceases to amaze me how some authors insist on using titles like Dr. this and that like that would make any difference. As the history has shown us most successful technology leaders have been self taught. Take Bill Gates – the founder of Microsoft for example, or how about Steve Jobs, the founder of Apple? As you may be aware, Bill and Steve did not graduate and didn’t get their degrees. These guys learned by themselves.

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