Taking PureView to the next level

Published by Ian Delaney on September 5, 2012

After the tremendous reception deservedly received for the Nokia 808 PureView, our imaging team was perhaps entitled to a holiday.

Instead, though, we sent them back to the lab to work on two things: bringing the technology to Lumia smartphones and delivering a whole new set of improvements.

Carl Zeiss Optics

Optical Image Stabiliser: Barrel shift type

Stabiliser performance: Up to 3EV (8x longer shutter speeds)

Focal length: 3.73mm

35mm equivalent focal length: 26mm for 16:9, 28mm for 4:3

F-number: f/2.0

Focus range: 8 cm – Infinity

Construction: Five elements, one group. All lens surfaces are aspherical

Optical format: 1/3″

The results of this intensive labour are first found in the Nokia Lumia 920.

[NB: If you want to get right into the nitty-gritty, download and digest the white paper. This is the tl;dr version.]

The initial PureView model focused on the problem of digital zoom and perfect details. Phase two of development focuses on low light performance, and adds more practical features that will allow more camera phone users to take better pictures.

The number one camera phone annoyance – fixed

Low light performance has been improved through two particular measures. 

First, the sensor type has been changed. A next-generation Back-Side Illuminated sensor is fitted that places the photosensitive area directly beneath the lens, without wires or metal between, as is the case with Front-Side Illuminated sensors. More light reaches the plate, in other words. That’s of critical importance when there isn’t much light around.

Image captured with Nokia Lumia 920

Image captured with competing high-end smartphone

Second, we’ve adopted a massive f/2.0 aperture – in layman’s terms, it’s a bigger hole, and so it lets in more light from the start when you’re using it indoors. Both these measures mean a lower sensor size is needed in order to get great results when you’re working in low light. 

Ready, steady, snap

These advances are complemented by Optical Image Stabilization (OIS). Your pictures and videos won’t blur when your hands are shaking, or when you are on the move. Again, it’ll help in low-light conditions where exposure times can get significantly longer.

Your images and pictures won't blur

(Updated caption) Image capture with Nokia Lumia 920 - WITHOUT Flash

Image captured with competing high-end smartphone

The OIS technology isn’t a digital algorithm, like you may have experienced previously. Crucially the rear-end of the camera is caged with a gyroscope to move the whole optical assembly to compensate unintended camera movement. Enough explanation: this video tells the story best.

This is a simulation of OIS technology.

As a self-confessed terrible photographer, thanks to genetically inherited shaky hands, it’s this part of the story that interests me the most. 

But there’s more…

The Nokia Lumia 920 packs a new generation of LED flash. This can be used as a continuous light for video and – for the first time – a pulse burst flash. The technology behind LED flash has improved significantly over a period of mere months, to be able to accurately freeze subjects under many more conditions than used to be the case.

Next, the image processing algorithms on the Lumia 920 significantly outshine any found on previous camera phones. In particular, the ‘denoise’ algorithm for reducing any visual noise from images is brand new and better than ever. These advanced algorithms compensate for not having the oversampling technology used in the previous generation of PureView.

Once more, we’d urge the true camera-fanatics to take a look at the white paper for more in-depth information. Even if you’re not, there’s a ton of information there that’s just plain fascinating for anyone with an interest in photography.

Note: The Lumia 920 pictures in this post were taken using prototype hardware and software, and then reduced dramatically in size. In addition, the OIS video, above, was not shot using the Lumia 920. We apologise for any confusion on this point.

Comments

  • http://www.gadgeterija.net/ Denis Jelec

    Fullsized samples, please. :)

    • http://conversations.nokia.com Ian Delaney

      I know! We’d love to be able to share these and will do as soon as possible.

  • http://www.facebook.com/teropetteri.laine Tero Petteri Laine

    So no Rich Recording? It’s going to sound like.

    • http://www.favbrowser.com FavBrowser.com

      Yep, great video quality with awful sound. what’s the point of recording?

  • Micha66

    It has only a 1/3″ sensor and you call it still pureview? :-(

    Are you sure? You’re not afraid to damage the fresh created pureview brand?

    • http://www.gadgeterija.net/ Denis Jelec

      PureView is *not* one tech embedded. It consists of several different and independent branches (OIS/Oversampling) which may (or may not) meet in the future.

    • steelicon

      PureView has been demoted from being a legit technology to merely a marketing term for salespitch.

      So your concern about damaging the PureView branding is now a non-issue: damage has already been done.

      • kalval

        Find me another smartphone that can keep it’s shutter open for 1/4 of a second with OIS to prevent blur. If that’s not worthy of pureview I don’t know what is. 41MP is not practical on a flagship smartphone – it is harder to produce in volume and costs a huge amount, and can you imagine how many customers they’d turn off if the only nokia options were camera bump (920) or low spec (820). The only reason they could do it on the 808 is because they knew it would only appeal to a niche market and therefore they would not need to ship millions

        • steelicon

          How about 2.7 seconds of exposure? Would that be enough? How about 41MP sensor to go along with it? Check the QR code below for the resulting image. Tripod optional.

          • kalval

            Yes but that is an 808. I agree it’s a fantastic camera and the 920 won’t match it, but compared to all other smartphone cameras (that aren’t massive) it is quite a leap forward and probably still warrants the pureview title based on the technologies in it. If nokia kept the pureview title for only 41MP cameras then they would only reach a niche market who already understands how good the camera is and who have no need of any branding. Why not bring the pureview branding to the best smartphone camera that fits in a normal smartphone form factor?

          • steelicon

            - “Why not bring the pureview branding to the best smartphone camera that fits in a normal smartphone form factor?”

            + So many reasons why, the most prominent is that it is a LIE.

          • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100001765523328 Ehsan Irani

            You seem to have a problem with understanding PureView has nothing to do with megapixels. It feels like arguing with a Creationist.

          • steelicon

            Wow. Necro-posting is so uncool. Comprehend that. And you seem to have several failures in understanding yourself, the issue here is that how those megapixels are being utilized by PureView technology. Take away those megapixels and you’re left with a phone that takes overexposed pictures during daytime photos taken almost 80-90% of the time! Not to mention the option of taking 33/38MP to crop and edit later. Take that, Mr. Know-it-all.

          • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100001765523328 Ehsan Irani

            Why would you have a problem with me responding to an old post? Regardless:

            You are DEAD SET on calling “algorithms to transform more pixels into less pixels” “PureView” and that’s exactly the problem here.
            Nokia keeps saying the 41MP camera is a branch of PureView. The other branch is having an OIS camera that would allow capturing more light in addition to a BSI sensor. This, also, is a branch of PureView.

            Basically Nokia are calling their advances in the field of smartphone camera “PureView”. Comprehend THAT.

            Allow those who coined the term elaborate on it for you. They keep telling you PureView isn’t JUST a high MP camera. Doesn’t enter your brain it seems.

          • steelicon

            I seldom do ad hominem, but maybe in your culture it is good netiquette to necropost and to ad hominem. Nice culture you got there.

            I will repeat : Nothing will come close to the cameraphone technology of PureView Pro, 41 megapixels and all. Specially with Full Resolution mode, not to mention PureView mode.

  • http://www.facebook.com/fravaccaro90 Francesco Vaccaro

    Great! But it’s a shame I have no cute girls to use for taking pictures :)

  • http://twitter.com/aceattorney aceattorney

    “The OIS video, above, was not shot using the Lumia 920.” Not sure why you labeled it as OIS ON then. Either way, would love to see some real sample videos.

    • http://conversations.nokia.com Ian Delaney

      Again, we’ll push for those. As noted above, it’s the #1 breakthrough feature for me.

      • 111san

        Hi Ian, this is a stunning phone. Please start highlighting the display in some new posts. If you ask me that is the one thing that customers who walk into a store will experience to the fullest…a camera they will have to trust what they read but the display is something they can truly experience in person. Someone needs to write an article bringing the display in focus.

    • peterson90210

      Its called simulation. Although the video should show a note stating the fact.

      • xoj_21

        its called a lie.

        • http://twitter.com/ymala1 Yasir Alam

          Holy shit you’re here too? Dedication my friend.

          • NorwegianThirtySomething

            He probably works for Samsung, judging by his posting history.

          • http://twitter.com/ymala1 Yasir Alam

            Well I hope he isn’t going to all this trouble for free.

        • http://twitter.com/ymala1 Yasir Alam

          Holy shit you’re here too? Dedication my friend.

        • http://twitter.com/ymala1 Yasir Alam

          Holy shit you’re here too? Dedication my friend.

        • http://twitter.com/ymala1 Yasir Alam

          Holy shit you’re here too? Dedication my friend.

        • http://twitter.com/ymala1 Yasir Alam

          Holy shit you’re here too? Dedication my friend.

        • http://twitter.com/ymala1 Yasir Alam

          Holy shit you’re here too? Dedication my friend.

        • steelicon

          No. Correction: It’s called a shameful, obstinate lie. Lying with persistence through the teeth.

    • http://www.facebook.com/ryster092 Ryan Spooner

      Because OIS is not a technology unique to Nokia Lumia phones and the camera used WAS using OIS. The video was just a demonstration of “Optical Image Stabilisation” as a technology, not the Nokia phone.

      • http://twitter.com/juancaller Juan Carlos Aller

        Of Course! It makes total sense! I will sell you a Vespa and will show you a video of a Ducatti to demonstrate how Awesome Italian bikes are…O_o?

    • C38S

      If you go to their youtube page you can see a real video.  Also if you watch the real video in their presentation last night it also shows the rig that they used to compare the 2 cameras with.

  • http://twitter.com/jimmy1one jimmy moore

    I’m an amateur photographer who owns a nice SLR. I never carried my Nikon around so I missed some great shots. However my 900 is always in my pocket. I’m thrilled to know I’ll be able to get comparable with my new 920 when it’s available

  • xoj_21

    fakes . ”To be fair, the video was a demonstration of optical image stabilization, not PureView”

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/P6EBAGPWVBSG2RSD4B7ESJAUUQ Marmota

      Note: The Lumia 920 pictures in this post were taken using prototype hardware and software, and then reduced dramatically in size. In addition, the OIS video, above, was not shot using the Lumia 920.

      • xoj_21

        still fake,  if lumia 920 look nothing like this we will know , mobile review, and gsmarena showing full resolution and comparing them 

  • http://twitter.com/AlexEfimoff Alex Efimoff

    At the moment the PureView technology consists of:
    - 41 megapixel sensor 
    - Floating Lens OIS
    I hope to see them implemented in a single device a-la Nokia PureView 909 :)

  • http://twitter.com/timshundo Tim Shundo

    That flash comparison at the bottom of the article does NOT look real. How does the phone make the chick appear to have a spotlight on her from the opposite direction!?

    • http://twitter.com/AlexEfimoff Alex Efimoff

      to answer you question we need to know the exact conditions of shooting. 

    • D .

      because it’s fake, just like their youtube video showing off PureView. They want your money, that’s it, they don’t care if they have to lie to get it.

      • http://www.facebook.com/people/Ville-Jarvinen/1301077549 Ville Järvinen

         I take it you have never shot long exposure images withouth flash in enviroment where there are many artificial light sources around?

        • http://twitter.com/markrlangston Mark Langston

          Yeah, but the photo comparisons are incredibly dramatic and look seriously doctored.

          I could see this photo being possible with a professional rig and crew but not from a camera phone. I’d love to be proven wrong but considering they already tried to pull a fast one with the OIS video they’ve given us no reason to believe any of the content they’re releasing is real.

          The proof will be in the pudding. Someone is going to attempt to recreate these shots and if they can’t get similar results Nokia will be called out and hopefully held accountable for misleading the public. This could really blow up in their faces and ultimately hurt Microsoft too since Nokia appears to be the premier manufacturer of Windows Phone 8.

          • http://www.facebook.com/eolorvida Enrique Olorvida

            You can have your pudding, i will have my Lumia 920.
            Take a look at this video.

          • kalval

            The first comparison shot was definitely shot with comparable lighting. With the one in the park it is hard to tell because not all the main lighting sources are visible in shot. However all it would take is a nearby street lamp or a fairly low intensity portable light to generate this effect. Nothing outside of the realm of possibility.
            Anyway these shots are certainly plausible with 8 times longer exposure, though I dare say they used a tripod.

          • http://www.facebook.com/people/Ethan-Anthony-Martin/100000542804240 Ethan Anthony Martin

            I came here to say exactly that. Thanks for saving me the finger energy.

        • http://twitter.com/markrlangston Mark Langston

          Yeah, but the photo comparisons are incredibly dramatic and look seriously doctored.

          I could see this photo being possible with a professional rig and crew but not from a camera phone. I’d love to be proven wrong but considering they already tried to pull a fast one with the OIS video they’ve given us no reason to believe any of the content they’re releasing is real.

          The proof will be in the pudding. Someone is going to attempt to recreate these shots and if they can’t get similar results Nokia will be called out and hopefully held accountable for misleading the public. This could really blow up in their faces and ultimately hurt Microsoft too since Nokia appears to be the premier manufacturer of Windows Phone 8.

        • http://twitter.com/markrlangston Mark Langston

          Yeah, but the photo comparisons are incredibly dramatic and look seriously doctored.

          I could see this photo being possible with a professional rig and crew but not from a camera phone. I’d love to be proven wrong but considering they already tried to pull a fast one with the OIS video they’ve given us no reason to believe any of the content they’re releasing is real.

          The proof will be in the pudding. Someone is going to attempt to recreate these shots and if they can’t get similar results Nokia will be called out and hopefully held accountable for misleading the public. This could really blow up in their faces and ultimately hurt Microsoft too since Nokia appears to be the premier manufacturer of Windows Phone 8.

        • http://twitter.com/markrlangston Mark Langston

          Yeah, but the photo comparisons are incredibly dramatic and look seriously doctored.

          I could see this photo being possible with a professional rig and crew but not from a camera phone. I’d love to be proven wrong but considering they already tried to pull a fast one with the OIS video they’ve given us no reason to believe any of the content they’re releasing is real.

          The proof will be in the pudding. Someone is going to attempt to recreate these shots and if they can’t get similar results Nokia will be called out and hopefully held accountable for misleading the public. This could really blow up in their faces and ultimately hurt Microsoft too since Nokia appears to be the premier manufacturer of Windows Phone 8.

      • http://conversations.nokia.com Ian Delaney

        None of the still images in this post are faked. It’s just *that* good.

        • Yourhouseguest

          Can we see full resolution sample shots indoors and outdoors in various conditions captured with Lumia 920 please?

          • kalval

            The camera software likely isn’t completely finished and optimised yet so unlikely, but if Nokia do give us them in the next few days with EXIF data I pledge to buy 2 920s on launch AND eat my own shoe.

          • disizhell

            start shoping for the thinest material and lightest pair of shoes :-)

          • kalval

            haha damn theverge, always making me eat items of clothing. Ah well, I was already planning on getting the 920s anyway.

    • http://www.facebook.com/kauto.huopio Kauto Huopio

      More precise, there seems to be at least _two_ extra light sources on the Nokia picture. There is one huge light on the left back, one can see the the shades on the ground. I’d like to see the exact setup for these two pictures explained. And maybe a second apology.

    • http://www.facebook.com/kauto.huopio Kauto Huopio

      More precise, there seems to be at least _two_ extra light sources on the Nokia picture. There is one huge light on the left back, one can see the the shades on the ground. I’d like to see the exact setup for these two pictures explained. And maybe a second apology.

    • C38S

      The buildings in the background didn’t all of a sudden get a spotlight.

    • NorwegianThirtySomething

      Because the flash of the other phone makes it appear that all other light sources disappear? Have you never taken pictures with a “normal” flash?

      This is pretty normal behavior. Longer exposure and pulse burst flash will let other light sources through – that’s why the images look so much better.

  • http://www.facebook.com/eswar.rajesh Eswar Rajesh Pinapala

    Faking witha Pro camera at 00:27 shows why Nokia is bankrupt…

    • nokiaiphone

      +1

  • http://twitter.com/AlexEfimoff Alex Efimoff

    My wish list includes:
    - ability to control ISO
    - manual exposure control
    - manual white balance temperature control
    - exposure bracketing 
    - ND filter
    what else?

    • http://www.facebook.com/eolorvida Enrique Olorvida

      uh… you can control the iso on Lumia 900…

  • http://www.facebook.com/huahongtu Raymond Tu

    Nokia, you guys messed up so bad. The only way to appease our anger now is to make the real thing better.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_H7XZGHA4CN5PQYAMAHRAH7WZWM Don Farmer

    I own the 808 and there are times I wish for more light.  True I’m not a pro but the 920 looks like it is something that will add to my camera ability and be my true smartphone, of course with Win8.  I can’t wait for the 920 to hit the streets and be able to take pictures like this as fast as you can with the Lumia, as I miss some with the 808. These pictures are great and I hope we’ll see more on Flickr and Fhotoroom. That Blink app is great.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/ZWKBVVXOKRX7PSIT3MLAMLNDU4 Rosimeiry

    Oh boy, you really did not need this mistake. Not to mention the bad launch event presentation (what, 1/4 of it on arranging the home screen)… 

  • Varuna Singh

    Oh god. Now Nokia faking is trending. I really wanted to buy a Lumia. I would still. But I can only imagine this to be bad for Nokia. Fix it before its too late.

  • http://www.facebook.com/gsmtricks Fill Hk

    Does anybody know what is the music playing on latest promo video? I like so much want to set it as ringtone

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=553365620 Bill Haynes

    So the ‘floating lens’ is really just backside illumination? I can think of at least one company that has that already. And big fail on the deceitful OIS video. Liars.

    • xsacha

      The floating lens is the optical stabilisation that uses springs and a gyroscope.

      The backside illumination is to improve low-light performance. It says in their whitepaper they have been looking at BSI since it first came out and it has only finally been good enough to use in phones. Previously BSI sensors had issues such as uneven lighting and over exposed photos (as seen in iPhone products).
      They are using the latest generation BSI in this product. Similar situation to their high-powered LED.

  • http://twitter.com/owenzhao Owen Zhao

    The pdf link for white pager is wrong, should change the 820 to 920.

  • http://twitter.com/owenzhao Owen Zhao

    The pdf link for white pager is wrong, should change the 820 to 920.

  • http://twitter.com/owenzhao Owen Zhao

    The pdf link for white pager is wrong, should change the 820 to 920.

  • http://twitter.com/owenzhao Owen Zhao

    The pdf link for white pager is wrong, should change the 820 to 920.

  • http://twitter.com/owenzhao Owen Zhao

    The pdf link for white pager is wrong, should change the 820 to 920.

  • John Howard

    I want the girl in red, not the phone.

  • http://twitter.com/pricop2007 Pricop Alexandru

    Can’t believe that you guys tried to mislead us by filming from a VAN seconds after you show us a guy filming a girl and then moved the camera like the guy was filming. I am a dissapointed L800 owner, and now I’m looking at the HTC offer now, btw – the 920 back is ugly, specially because it’s curved from top to bottom, instead of keeping the top and bottom with straight lines, it’s much thicker than the 820.

    Again, shame on you for what you’ve did, indeed “you’ve changed the things” – for real.

  • http://twitter.com/dalydose Jeff Daly

    I’m guessing the second wave will have more pixels so we can do lossless digital zoom, expandable SD storage and Rich Recording. I think I’ll keep ahold of my Lumia 900 and wait it out.

  • http://twitter.com/dalydose Jeff Daly

    I’m guessing the second wave will have more pixels so we can do lossless digital zoom, expandable SD storage and Rich Recording. I think I’ll keep ahold of my Lumia 900 and wait it out.

  • http://kjmackey.blogspot.com KjM

    It would be interesting, in my opinion, to see images captured with the Lumia 920 compared with the leading camera phone – the 808 PureView.

    That way we’d get a sense of the low light performance addressed by the larger aperture and how the new, improved LED flash compares with the xenon on the current leader.

    Reasonable?

  • http://kjmackey.blogspot.com KjM

    It would be interesting, in my opinion, to see images captured with the Lumia 920 compared with the leading camera phone – the 808 PureView.

    That way we’d get a sense of the low light performance addressed by the larger aperture and how the new, improved LED flash compares with the xenon on the current leader.

    Reasonable?

  • http://twitter.com/markrlangston Mark Langston

    I get that they’re using prototype hardware but unless the hardware is finished don’t release ANYTHING until it’s done.

    Nokia did themselves no favors by trying to fake out the public with that OIS footage. And the real footage is actually pretty crappy. You can clearly make out stuttering, which I assume is the OIS engine attempting to calibrate.

    As for that last image with the girl leaning against the tree, I’m almost convinced that’s a fake. I’d love to be wrong because if that’s from an ACTUAL Lumia 920 then Apple had better watch out.

    But if it’s fake Nokia’s public deception could be incredibly damaging to advancing the WinPho8 OS.

  • http://twitter.com/markrlangston Mark Langston

    I get that they’re using prototype hardware but unless the hardware is finished don’t release ANYTHING until it’s done.

    Nokia did themselves no favors by trying to fake out the public with that OIS footage. And the real footage is actually pretty crappy. You can clearly make out stuttering, which I assume is the OIS engine attempting to calibrate.

    As for that last image with the girl leaning against the tree, I’m almost convinced that’s a fake. I’d love to be wrong because if that’s from an ACTUAL Lumia 920 then Apple had better watch out.

    But if it’s fake Nokia’s public deception could be incredibly damaging to advancing the WinPho8 OS.

  • http://twitter.com/markrlangston Mark Langston

    I get that they’re using prototype hardware but unless the hardware is finished don’t release ANYTHING until it’s done.

    Nokia did themselves no favors by trying to fake out the public with that OIS footage. And the real footage is actually pretty crappy. You can clearly make out stuttering, which I assume is the OIS engine attempting to calibrate.

    As for that last image with the girl leaning against the tree, I’m almost convinced that’s a fake. I’d love to be wrong because if that’s from an ACTUAL Lumia 920 then Apple had better watch out.

    But if it’s fake Nokia’s public deception could be incredibly damaging to advancing the WinPho8 OS.

  • http://twitter.com/markrlangston Mark Langston

    I get that they’re using prototype hardware but unless the hardware is finished don’t release ANYTHING until it’s done.

    Nokia did themselves no favors by trying to fake out the public with that OIS footage. And the real footage is actually pretty crappy. You can clearly make out stuttering, which I assume is the OIS engine attempting to calibrate.

    As for that last image with the girl leaning against the tree, I’m almost convinced that’s a fake. I’d love to be wrong because if that’s from an ACTUAL Lumia 920 then Apple had better watch out.

    But if it’s fake Nokia’s public deception could be incredibly damaging to advancing the WinPho8 OS.

  • http://twitter.com/markrlangston Mark Langston

    I get that they’re using prototype hardware but unless the hardware is finished don’t release ANYTHING until it’s done.

    Nokia did themselves no favors by trying to fake out the public with that OIS footage. And the real footage is actually pretty crappy. You can clearly make out stuttering, which I assume is the OIS engine attempting to calibrate.

    As for that last image with the girl leaning against the tree, I’m almost convinced that’s a fake. I’d love to be wrong because if that’s from an ACTUAL Lumia 920 then Apple had better watch out.

    But if it’s fake Nokia’s public deception could be incredibly damaging to advancing the WinPho8 OS.

  • http://twitter.com/markrlangston Mark Langston

    I get that they’re using prototype hardware but unless the hardware is finished don’t release ANYTHING until it’s done.

    Nokia did themselves no favors by trying to fake out the public with that OIS footage. And the real footage is actually pretty crappy. You can clearly make out stuttering, which I assume is the OIS engine attempting to calibrate.

    As for that last image with the girl leaning against the tree, I’m almost convinced that’s a fake. I’d love to be wrong because if that’s from an ACTUAL Lumia 920 then Apple had better watch out.

    But if it’s fake Nokia’s public deception could be incredibly damaging to advancing the WinPho8 OS.

  • http://twitter.com/markrlangston Mark Langston

    I get that they’re using prototype hardware but unless the hardware is finished don’t release ANYTHING until it’s done.

    Nokia did themselves no favors by trying to fake out the public with that OIS footage. And the real footage is actually pretty crappy. You can clearly make out stuttering, which I assume is the OIS engine attempting to calibrate.

    As for that last image with the girl leaning against the tree, I’m almost convinced that’s a fake. I’d love to be wrong because if that’s from an ACTUAL Lumia 920 then Apple had better watch out.

    But if it’s fake Nokia’s public deception could be incredibly damaging to advancing the WinPho8 OS.

  • xoj_21

    photos are fake too

  • xoj_21

    photos are fake too

  • http://www.facebook.com/gmiguel83 Jorge Miguel

    Good/Great things always attract haters. Most if not all tech journalists who’ve attended the event yesterday confirmed that this phone’s camera is GENIUS! Watch the reviews. And if you guys see the comments about the ad being ‘Fake’, people don’t care about that. All they want is to lick and hold one of these.

    • http://conversations.nokia.com/ Adam Fraser

      Lick? That’s the second time we’ve had that in the comments since yesterday. Ha! I lick (like) it.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=610796618 Fabio Stefanini

    photos are not fake. Look at the last pair of images. The first has the ground in the frame whereas the second doesn’t. That’s why it “looks like” there is an other light-source, but it’s just because that light source wasn’t shown in the competing-smartphone picture.
    Lights on the buildings? They are there also in the other picture so I don’t understand the comment.

    Clearly you should read about how to use fill-flash in landscape pictures at night.

    • http://twitter.com/autopolitics Tristán Grimaux

      It looked very suspicious to me that they have cropped the feet and the tree, because there it would be easier to compare how the near light sources behave.

      • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=610796618 Fabio Stefanini

        I take it. But that’s a little bit of marketing, or maybe just something they didn’t realize in first place. Notice that the optics of the two phones are different almost for sure and maybe they wanted the subject to appear exactly the same in the two shots.

        All in all, it’s not fake, that’s what matters. You can compare them as you prefer, but somebody please tell us a single shot they took in those light conditions that looks half that good. Impossible, that’s just not possible. It is an astonishing technology and I am happy to see that after all these years Nokia is back to the front of the innovation wave. It might not be the best in the world, but comparisons are for bloggers, not for innovators.

        Cheers

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=610796618 Fabio Stefanini

    photos are not fake. Look at the last pair of images. The first has the ground in the frame whereas the second doesn’t. That’s why it “looks like” there is an other light-source, but it’s just because that light source wasn’t shown in the competing-smartphone picture.
    Lights on the buildings? They are there also in the other picture so I don’t understand the comment.

    Clearly you should read about how to use fill-flash in landscape pictures at night.

  • MistelMistel

    Perhaps they have taken a 808… ? ;-)

  • http://twitter.com/photoblog_ie patrick dinneen

    I’m sorry but after reading about the liar/untruth about the OIS I can’t believe anything from Nokia that looks like a ‘game changer’. If the nighttime images are as good as example above then I’d change iPHone for it but I can’t believe it wihtout testing.

  • johnstwart

    Why don’t you guys hold a mini press event or publish a video statement about the terrible misunderstanding with your latest videos? Something with Elop himself maybe

  • Qiuness

    Fake? indeed!

  • http://www.facebook.com/Sir.Knight.Joebs Jose Eriberto Pacquing

    @Tim: You’re right! You noticed that also, did ‘ya. There’s a light emitted by the camera, but from the looks of her shoulder, there seems to be another light source! Good eyes you got there, Tim!

  • http://www.facebook.com/Sir.Knight.Joebs Jose Eriberto Pacquing

    There’s a shadow in front of her, which of course came from the tree. But the shadow from her right shoulder? I wonder where that light source came from. Hmmmm.

  • http://www.facebook.com/Sir.Knight.Joebs Jose Eriberto Pacquing

    @NorwegianThirtySomething: I believe your position on this. Likely, a slave flash was used when it was fired specially when the “Red-eye” was used. Secondly, you need a tripod to get a steady shot on this specially if you change the aperture settings & longer exposures. Been a photographer for 27 years now.

  • http://www.facebook.com/Sir.Knight.Joebs Jose Eriberto Pacquing

    @ Alex Efimoff • a day ago
    Your wish list includes:

    - ability to control ISO
    - manual exposure control
    - manual white balance temperature control
    - exposure bracketing
    - ND filter
    what else?
    - How about a mount for a tripod? LOL!
    I want a DSLR that has a built-in phone, swiss knife included! Hehehe!

  • http://www.facebook.com/rafapolicastro Rafael Grillo Policastro

    You are bizarre as a company!
    ” In addition, the OIS video, above, was not shot using the Lumia 920.”

  • geekanoids

    I am amazed at how detailed the photos look, I cannot wait to try the Lumia 920 out and test that camera.

  • steelicon

    Even the photo stills used in the video seem to be fake. Check out the QR Code and follow the link to the evidence.

    • http://conversations.nokia.com Ian Delaney

      The photos were largely shot in Central Park the day before the launch. Apart from removing the EXIF information and resizing (done by me – since this are prototype models), there hasn’t been any other alteration.

      • steelicon

        Okay. No way to verify that. I guess we’ll just have to take you and Nokia’s word for it. *shrug*

        Although there is *one* other picture that suggests the otherwise…

        Take a look at the left side of the picture and pray, do tell me, what do you see?

      • http://twitter.com/AlexEfimoff Alex Efimoff

        Hi Ian, why wouldn’t you/Nokia release at least one full resolution shot? I have created a group on Flickr, called Nokia Lumia 920, it contains all 6 current resized sample shots. You are welcome to upload the originals (or at least one of the) ;)

  • Osvaldo

    0:27 Nokia shame on you

  • B K

    808 is real PureView, it was about technology which works and delivers. Something which couldnt be done on top of WP. And so Elop goes his microsoftsque way with yesterday announcemnents, and PureView now becomes stupid marketing term for stupid buyers. This is how well Nokia think of their customers. Good work, as usual.

  • Javi

    ANDROID!!!!!! PLEASE!!!!!!

  • Ben

    Hey Nokia, could you please remove the image above the tag line “Your images and pictures won’t blur”? OIS won’t stop blurring of a moving subject, and a low minimum aperture won’t let the entire building be on focus. The image is clearly either in full direct sunlight or was taken with a high-end DSLR.

  • Abhay_naik

    Will there be any difference in the day light performance on 920 camera
    when compared to my 900 camera? The pureview tech is only useful for low
    light. Optical stabilization is needed only when you shoot at low
    shutter speeds.

  • PiCASSiMO

    Will rich recording be included? Might be a deal breaker…

    • http://twitter.com/unstoppablekem Kyle

      Yes.

  • SergeSF

    Sorry to know Nokia goes down to lie. “920″ photos are realistically lighted with professional light.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100002908137624 Christina Williams

    Hi Ian
    It seems that your promoting the Lumia 920 pretty bad. lol. Actually the only product which was released one of the best, was for me the Nokia N8, Camera phone’s had been evolved then as well, but it was just something about the N8, the Size of the lenses, the snappy overall camera interface was just accomodating, after looking at this post, and even after looking at the Lumia 920′s lenses, I just think there’s nothing to hype about, considering those are standard Carl Zeiss f/2.0 Lenses. I dont know how on earth they would have actually managed to take shots with that much of brightness. unless ofcoure its not the lenses but the software, whatever it is, it is hardly accomodatable that the Lumia 920 took those images. I just think it wont be a great camera capable device as much as the N8, and Pureview stands at, the N8 will still beat this lying peice of unibody 920. :)

  • http://twitter.com/Partinen Ari Partinen

    Hi Tim and Jose,

    I recommend you to take a look at the
    Verge latest article, where they were given a rare opportunity to test the
    latest Nokia 920 PureView camera by them self.

    I can assure that given this rare
    opportunity to put Lumia 920 PureView against several other high end smart
    phones, the Verge posse did not use external lights or tripods to take the test
    images.

    Indeed the original images were proven
    real but also the Lumia 920 PureView was clearly the best performing camera
    from the tested punch.

    Here´s the conclusion from the verge video.

    “we were very impressed of it´s ability to take still shots
    under low light conditions. The other camera phones didn´t compare so well,
    they were all very dark”

    Br,

    Ari

  • http://www.facebook.com/yusuf905 Yusuf Islam

    DON’T DELETE MY COMMENT AGAIN, THESE GUYS WERE CAUGHT FAKING THEIR VIDEO FOOTAGE AND IMAGE. IT’S ALL OVER THE WORLD. THE VERGE EXPOSED THEM. AS FOR THE PICTURE ABOVE THE BOTTOM PICTURE US WITH THE FLASH ON. MY GALAXY S3 IN NIGHT CAN DO THAT LUMIA 920 SHOT WITHOUT A FLASH

  • http://twitter.com/War_AK Anton

    NOKLA forevaaaaaaa

  • http://www.facebook.com/Sannihith Sannihith Kinnera

    @iandelaney:disqus, everyone else from Nokia:
    One quastion for you people about Lumia 920′s camera capabilities:
    So, what we have is less sensor surface area overall compared to Nokia 808, right?(talking about per pixel, with oversampling considered on 808)
    So, when you capture a scene, the 808 requires the shutter to stay open for less amount of time to capture as much light as the Lumia 920. Hence, won’t it actually result in less blur due to moving objects?
    Understood the Lumia 920 decreases blur due to camera shake, but what about the blur due to subject shake? What about moving subjects? Wont the sharpness be lost compared to 808? What’s the purpose here then? You can’t always expect your subjects to remain still for your snapshots. Keeping the shutter open 5x longer as you quote=5x more blur per moving subject. And this motion blur, I dont think can be reduced with any algorithms once captured.

    The only saviour I see here for the Lumia 920 is the BSI Sensor, but we don’t really know how much that helps in reaching similar light capturing abilities as the 808. The way I see it, OIS doesn’t really help in capturing better and yet sharper low-light images. The 808 might be able to take sharper YET similarly bright low-light images(unless crippled by the imaging algorithms).
    I don’t understand why Nokia prefered OIS to surface area, but I’d always prefer quicker shots with less shutter open time and larger sensor surface area.

  • Raman Arora

    I need 808 with Optical Image Stabalization please. Each and every amateur and professional will buy an 808 with OIS. Please launch one or update 808.